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[Paul Natsuo Kishimoto <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,

  I printed my proposal to HTML and have attached it. Note there is an
initial version (top) and a revised one (bottom) based on Lionel's
comments. Some observations further down...

 * GUADEC seems like tons of fun, but I will be dragon boat racing at a
regatta in Montréal as it starts, which would make me miss half of it. I
don't know if it make sense for me to try to attend, or to take
sponsorship from someone who could be there the whole time :/

 * Communications-wise, I am on Jabber at xmpp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and
will begin using IRC (khaeru, my Launchpad handle), through I don't
habitually. I also notice I am 6 hours offset from all four of
you...GMT-4 vs. GMT+2. I guess this will make it seem like I am a very
early riser!

 * Regarding complementarity of work: one thing common to both my
initial & revised proposal is a survey of existing GTD tools. I proposed
that because there is definitely going to be some difference between:

 * The current GTG data model.
 * The GTG data model at the end of the SoC.
 * The data model used by "X" application, online tool or API — many
possibilities for X, including Karlo's new service

  I have even run into situations where a web-based tool offers exports
or an API to *only a subset* of its data; so the service as seen by
users and as seen by developers/API consumers are *different*.

  Even where two data models store the same information, sometimes one
version will have odd restrictions, e.g. character limits on certain
fields, etc.

  I think it is absolutely essential that we have a map of all this,
both to keep ourselves straight & help users understand what will happen
"under the hood" (like http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Protocols%
20Support?highlight=%28video%29). A good way to start would be a common
Google spreadsheet or other document. What do you think?

On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 16:49 +0200, Karlo Jež wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> 
> Here is my proposal (a bit shorter than Luca's :) ):
> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dg8zg36k_3ccd6b834
> 
> Luca, it seems we are compatible, you plan to finish sync engine
> before my plan to enable syncing with gtg-online.
> 
> I would really like to attend guadec.. Guess I should plan the trip,
> deadline for sponsorship is 3 days from now for gsoc students.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Luca Invernizzi
> <invernizzi.l@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         Hello mentors and fellow students!
>         Cheers to all of you. A few points:
>         
>         #proposals
>         First of all, I'd like to read Paul's and Karlo's proposals.
>         Mine is here: docs.google.com/View?id=dd225d6z_312gf23p4ct .
>         
>         #communication:
>         Starting from yesterday I'm back at my place, which means that
>         I will
>         be available most of the day on #gtg (invernizzi). You can
>         reach me
>         also via jabber/gtalk (invernizzi.l@xxxxxxxxx).
>          I've created a team on launchpad
>         (https://edge.launchpad.net/~gtg-gsoc): I don't know if it
>         will be
>         used, but it's there.
>         
>         #schedule
>         A tentative schedule is in my proposal. I'm waiting for yours
>         to
>         understand how we will move.
>         Before GSoC  start, I think we should cooperate to fix the
>         core
>         features of trunk to a stable state.
>         
>         Let's deprecate Tasque! :-D
>         
>          Luca
>         
>         PS:Will we meet at
>         GUADEC?(http://www.guadec.org/index.php/guadec/index)
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Lionel Dricot
>         <ploum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         >
>         > Hello my dear GTG students !
>         >
>         > I'm glad you make it. We had 14 GTG SoC proposal this year
>         (which is 1/6
>         > of every GNOME proposals !!). Amongst them, there was 6
>         really good
>         > propositions. We had to choose only 3 and that's you :-)
>         >
>         > You will all be mentored by Bertrand and me. This is quite
>         an
>         > organisational challenge so here's a proposed way of
>         working :
>         >
>         > 1) *You* are the owner of your project. You have to take
>         initiative. We
>         > will not give you an agenda, a weekly objective, etc. It's
>         up to you to do
>         > it and ask us.
>         >
>         > 2)  Your 3 SoC are not independant. So every mail/weekly
>         > report/question/answers should be to everybody. Do we use
>         one of our
>         > launchpad group for that ?
>         >
>         > 3) Read
>         >
>         http://ploum.frimouvy.org/?221-how-to-be-a-lazy-but-successful-googlesoc-mentor
>         > . Keep in mind the "honesty" point. It's perfectly OK to not
>         work at all
>         > for two weeks. It's not OK to hide it.
>         >
>         > 4) Officially, I'm responsible for Paul and Luca. Bertrand
>         is responsible
>         > for Karlo. If you have any problem, if you didn't received
>         an answer to a
>         > request, if you have any doubt, contact your personal mentor
>         directly. If
>         > bertrand an me disagree, listen to your mentor ;-)  For
>         everything else,
>         > consider that we are both your mentor.
>         >
>         > 5) When you write a mail, keep it short or put a summary in
>         the header. We
>         > want code, not blabla ;-)
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > So, the first assignment I want from you is a clear
>         objective of you SoC
>         > with a very clear mid-term objective (both have to be
>         S.M.A.R.T). This has
>         > to come with a schedule. To do that, please discuss with
>         each other. We
>         > want no overlap but cooperation in your SoC. Objective of
>         each of you
>         > should be clear for the others. Once we all agree about your
>         objectives,
>         > you will send a mail to the whole GTG community to present
>         your project.
>         >
>         > This is not urgent as SoC hasn't started officially but it's
>         already a
>         > start :-)
>         >
>         >
>         > Let the fun begin, woohoo !!
>         >
>         >
>         > Lionel
>         >
>         
> 

-- 
Paul Kishimoto
MASc candidate (2010), Flight Systems & Control Group
University of Toronto Institute for Aerospace Studies (UTIAS)

http://paul.kishimoto.name — +19053029315

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