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[Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Did this issue start happening after an update/upgrade?  Was there a
prior kernel version where you were not having this particular problem?

Would it be possible for you to test the latest upstream kernel? Refer
to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds . Please test the latest
v4.0 kernel[0].

If this bug is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following
tag 'kernel-fixed-upstream'.

If the mainline kernel does not fix this bug, please add the tag:
'kernel-bug-exists-upstream'.

If you are unable to test the mainline kernel, for example it will not boot, please add the tag: 'kernel-unable-to-test-upstream'.
Once testing of the upstream kernel is complete, please mark this bug as "Confirmed".


Thanks in advance.

[0] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.0-vivid/

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Tags added: kernel-da-key

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1447052

Title:
  System should never drive into unresponsive swapping by naive end-user
  handling operations

Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Even for the newest Ubuntu, even on memory rich high end systems
  sporting fast SSD drives, the system can be driven into long time
  swapping state with unresponsiveness (jerky mouse movements or no
  movement at all, no reaction to clicks and keypresses) easily by naive
  everyday operations. The state may last for hours depending on the
  applications behaviour, only workaround is to pull the plug. This is
  akward. Many users often have a quite messy desktop with several
  applications opened at once, hence a large risk of data loss if the
  system has to be restarted in an unresponsive condition.

  This should not be blamed on bad behaveing applications alone, as
  there are a lot of naive applications around, and it is not the right
  of some desktop application to bring down the whole system.

  Some example "mistakes" a "naive" user may do, the list may be easily
  extended endless:

  -Open an oversized image or a long list of images in Gimp
  -Mark an entire column in Libreoffice Calc and fill down with some complex formula
  -Open a long collection of PDFs at once
  -Accidently open some large ASCII database- or log file with Libreoffice Writer
  -Pull up interactive sliders in Blender related to detail refinements 
  -...

  
  I guess it is not easy to work around, but the current state is unbearable in my opinion.

  This may also have security implications, as unresponsiveness prevent
  manual entering of screen locks, shotdown or standby, which may leave
  the machine unlocked, if the user leaves the unresponsive machine and
  it then recovers.

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