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[Bug 1471530] Re: Acer Aspire 5315: Fan turns off when loading linux, resulting in system overheat and emergency shutdown
Christopher, thank you for that information and the direct link, I've
been able to download the BIOS file.
Unfortunately, it's a windows-only download. I've extracted it with
archive manager, and the program inside is called "InsydeFlash.exe".
Going by the wiki article you linked, it seems the only option for me is
to use a Windows 7 repair disc, since I don't have a windows 8 system,
the BIOS update is not dos based, and flashrom's wiki says it won't work
on a laptop.
Just one question: Do you know if I can use a windows-7 repair disc
created on another computer to do the BIOS update? Because this laptop
is ubuntu-only, and right now my windows desktop PC does not have a CD
burner (I would get one for it if that could help me run the BIOS
update). The system-restore thing doesn't want to create an ISO,
otherwise I'd have moved it to the ubuntu laptop and burned it there
already.
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Title:
Acer Aspire 5315: Fan turns off when loading linux, resulting in
system overheat and emergency shutdown
Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
Incomplete
Bug description:
First off: I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS "Trusty Tahr", yet ubuntu-
bug linux started the bug report against linux-lts-utopic. I hope it
knows what it's doing : )
uname -a says "Linux aspire5315 3.16.0-41-generic #57~14.04.1-Ubuntu
SMP Thu Jun 18 18:01:13 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux".
Now to the problem.
The fan on this particular Laptop seems to be either controlled by BIOS or - after the operating system signals somehow(tm) that it's capable of doing so - completely by software. There is (I assume it's implemented in the mainboard firmware) an emergency-power-off once the temperature exceeds a certain threshold, that's what causing the sudden poweroff after a while.
Without any modifications, if you power it up (assuming its already
warm from a previous session), the fan works correctly. If you load
BIOS or GRUB, no problems. I could confirm temperature-dependent
control works by loading a memtest86 and letting it run for a few
hours; Fan speed kept going up and down, machine did not crash.
Once you load a linux kernel (LiveCD exhibits the same behaviour), the
fan stops completely and the system starts heating up. I was able to
get through a complete ubuntu installation before poweroff by not
using an internet connection and clicking defaults as fast as
possible, starting with the machine cold.
After I had ubuntu installed, thanks to much help at bug report
#728733 I have made the following discoveries.
(1) Booting linux with "acpi=off" results in a kernel panic (I had to replace "quiet splash" with "verbose" to see that), but the fan stays on.
(2) Booting linux with "acpi=off noapic" or "acpi=off nolapic" results in the fan working correctly, but the wifi card doen't work.
(3) Booting linux normally, if you monitor /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp it stays at 40000 (40°C) even if lm-sensors' coretemp tells me that the processor is quite beyond that. [note: It is possible that the fan is just so quiet at the 40°C setting that I'm thinking its off]. Thermald also seems to depend on this temperature reading and therefore does not throttle the CPU.
(4) Sending the machine to standby and waking it up again results in the thermal_zone0/temp getting updated regularly (it seems to follow coretemp with a few seconds lag) and the fan turning faster and slower. In this state, the system is perfectly usable.
What I would like is to have the system in state 4 (fan turning and
adjusting to temperature) without requiring human intervention, either
by avoiding the fan stopping in the first place (preferred) or by re-
starting it automated sometime in the boot process.
> We also need:
1) The release of Ubuntu you are using
'lsb_release -rd' gives
Description: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
Release: 14.04
2) The version of the package you are using
'apt-cache policy linux-image-$(uname -r)' says I'm running
3.16.0-41.57~14.04.1
3) What you expected to happen
System fan stays on after grub->linux handoff (or only stays off for a brief time period and comes back up automatically)
4) What happened instead
System fan stays off until I suspend and wakeup the machine, possibly resulting in heat emergency poweroff if I am too slow or forget to do it
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04
Package: linux-image-3.16.0-41-generic 3.16.0-41.57~14.04.1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-41.57~14.04.1-generic 3.16.7-ckt11
Uname: Linux 3.16.0-41-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.11
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: Unity
Date: Sun Jul 5 12:16:55 2015
InstallationDate: Installed on 2001-01-02 (5296 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS "Trusty Tahr" - Release amd64+mac (20150218.1)
SourcePackage: linux-lts-utopic
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
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ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.11
Architecture: amd64
AudioDevicesInUse:
USER PID ACCESS COMMAND
/dev/snd/controlC0: dannyedel 1385 F.... pulseaudio
CurrentDesktop: Unity
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04
InstallationDate: Installed on 2001-01-02 (5297 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS "Trusty Tahr" - Release amd64+mac (20150218.1)
MachineType: Acer Aspire 5315
Package: linux (not installed)
ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-41-generic root=UUID=36a742e5-ee21-43a3-b931-ce78a8734631 ro verbose
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-41.57~14.04.1-generic 3.16.7-ckt11
RelatedPackageVersions:
linux-restricted-modules-3.16.0-41-generic N/A
linux-backports-modules-3.16.0-41-generic N/A
linux-firmware 1.127.12
Tags: trusty
Uname: Linux 3.16.0-41-generic x86_64
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sambashare sudo
_MarkForUpload: True
dmi.bios.date: 09/27/2007
dmi.bios.vendor: Acer
dmi.bios.version: V1.18
dmi.board.asset.tag: Base Board Asset Tag
dmi.board.name: Acadia
dmi.board.vendor: Acer
dmi.board.version: V1.18
dmi.chassis.type: 1
dmi.chassis.vendor: Acer
dmi.chassis.version: V1.18
dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAcer:bvrV1.18:bd09/27/2007:svnAcer:pnAspire5315:pvrV1.18:rvnAcer:rnAcadia:rvrV1.18:cvnAcer:ct1:cvrV1.18:
dmi.product.name: Aspire 5315
dmi.product.version: V1.18
dmi.sys.vendor: Acer
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