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["Christopher M. Penalver" <christopher.m.penalver@xxxxxxxxx>]

John Kennedy, this bug was reported a while ago and there hasn't been
any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an
issue? If so, could you please test for this with the latest development
release of Ubuntu? ISO images are available from
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ .

If it remains an issue, could you please run the following command in
the development release from a Terminal
(Applications->Accessories->Terminal), as it will automatically gather
and attach updated debug information to this report:

apport-collect -p linux <replace-with-bug-number>

Also, could you please test the latest upstream kernel available (not the daily folder) following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds ? It will allow additional upstream developers to examine the issue. Once you've tested the upstream kernel, please comment on which kernel version specifically you tested. If this bug is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following tags:
kernel-fixed-upstream
kernel-fixed-upstream-VERSION-NUMBER

where VERSION-NUMBER is the version number of the kernel you tested. For example:
kernel-fixed-upstream-v3.13-rc3

This can be done by clicking on the yellow circle with a black pencil icon next to the word Tags located at the bottom of the bug description. As well, please remove the tag:
needs-upstream-testing

If the mainline kernel does not fix this bug, please add the following tags:
kernel-bug-exists-upstream
kernel-bug-exists-upstream-VERSION-NUMBER

As well, please remove the tag:
needs-upstream-testing

Once testing of the upstream kernel is complete, please mark this bug's
Status as Confirmed. Please let us know your results. Thank you for your
understanding.

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
       Status: Confirmed => Incomplete

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Title:
  Thrashing turns system unusable

Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Fix Released
Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Thrashing on Ubuntu seems to make it almost impossible to interact
  with the system. It can be minutes before any interaction has an
  effect, including remote connections. This means that if a program
  either misbehaves or simply needs more memory than available RAM, it
  might be hard or impossible to stop it, either locally or remotely.
  This can be both an annoyance and a security threat (since a process
  without elevated privileges can effectively hang the system).

  It is not hard to make a system go into thrashing, especially if it is
  low on memory (that's probably true in general, not only of Ubuntu).
  On my ASUS netbook running Ubuntu 10.04, with only 1GB RAM, thrashing
  can occur as easily as running both Chromium (which is a bit of a
  memory hog) and the Resynthesizer plugin in the GIMP at the same time.
  Running these programs plus another memory-intensive program like
  Mathematica can generate thrashing even when 2GB or 4GB of physical
  memory are available.

  I am including a short C++ program that allocates and accesses a large
  amount of memory, guaranteeing thrashing will occur on any system.
  Using this or any other memory-intensive program, the steps required
  to reproduce the condition I described are

  1. Start one or more memory-intensive programs.
  2. As RAM is filled, paging will start, and if the programs try to access the memory that has been swapped out, thrashing occurs.

  What happens?

  - Interactivity with the system drops to almost zero. Mouse barely
  moves, keyboard interaction has huge delays (tens of seconds),
  starting a terminal or switching to one if one is already open can
  take minutes, as is the case with remote (e.g. SSH) connections.

  What I would expect/want to happen?

  - The system should keep interactivity levels high at all times. While
  I'm not at all an expert on this, I would think this could be achieved
  by either not allowing paging out of essential user-interface
  elements, or more generally by giving processes that generate a lot of
  page faults comparatively lower priority than other processes,
  especially processes that are just starting, or are part of the user
  interface.

  
  To use the included program, compile with

  g++ -o bug bug.cc

  and run with

  ./bug <amount of memory>

  where <amount of memory> is the amount of memory in MB to be
  allocated. One can run several instances of the program at the same
  time, to compete for memory. One can use top, free or the System
  Monitor to check when RAM is completely filled, and thrashing starts.

  PS: This seems to be a long-standing issue with Linux, it's not
  limited to the current version of Ubuntu.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
  Package: linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic 2.6.32-24.39
  Regression: No
  Reproducible: Yes
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-24.38-generic 2.6.32.15+drm33.5
  Uname: Linux 2.6.32-24-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
  AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  tibi       1596 F.... pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p:   tibi       1596 F...m pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC1:  tibi       1596 F.... pulseaudio
  CRDA: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
  Card0.Amixer.info:
   Card hw:0 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xfe020000 irq 21'
     Mixer name	: 'Nvidia MCP78 HDMI'
     Components	: 'HDA:10ec0888,10250153,00100202 HDA:10de0002,10de0101,00100000'
     Controls      : 37
     Simple ctrls  : 20
  Card1.Amixer.info:
   Card hw:1 'U0x46d0x8da'/'USB Device 0x46d:0x8da at usb-0000:00:04.0-2, full speed'
     Mixer name	: 'USB Mixer'
     Components	: 'USB046d:08da'
     Controls      : 3
     Simple ctrls  : 2
  Date: Wed Aug 18 13:01:30 2010
  HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=9464cfb9-e39a-46ab-bf3a-01a7f2194ab1
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release amd64 (20100429)
  IwConfig:
   lo        no wireless extensions.
   
   eth0      no wireless extensions.
  MachineType: eMachines EL1210-09
  ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=93f3d657-74ac-4853-acab-704f74ab4cd0 ro quiet splash
  ProcEnviron:
   PATH=(custom, user)
   LANG=en_US.utf8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  RelatedPackageVersions: linux-firmware 1.34.1
  RfKill:
   
  SourcePackage: linux
  dmi.bios.date: 09/23/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
  dmi.bios.version: R01-A0
  dmi.board.name: WMCP78M
  dmi.board.vendor: eMachines
  dmi.chassis.asset.tag: 0000000000000000000000
  dmi.chassis.type: 3
  dmi.chassis.vendor: eMachines
  dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnPhoenixTechnologies,LTD:bvrR01-A0:bd09/23/2008:svneMachines:pnEL1210-09:pvrR01-A0:rvneMachines:rnWMCP78M:rvr:cvneMachines:ct3:cvr:
  dmi.product.name: EL1210-09
  dmi.product.version: R01-A0
  dmi.sys.vendor: eMachines

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