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[roland aus köln <devzero@xxxxxx>]

>May be "one-hundred-papercuts" is the right place if you feel a bug
doesn't get enough attention foralongtime.

that`s a pointer, thanks.

>Another valuable thought is that one cannot blame the ubuntu-people
solely for not getting this right

yes, for sure intel also is to blame, but when the ubuntu team decided
to drop non-pae kernel  ( http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/Dropping-i386
-non-PAE-as-a-supported-kernel-flavour-in-Precise-Pangolin-td366373.html
) they should better care for the consequences instead of ignoring the
problems of hundreds of users.  and , they cannot say that nobody
complained - there had been complaints already at time of the
announcement.

i would have no problem when ubuntu was simply ubuntu desktop, but there
is ubuntu server, there is ltsp, there is lubuntu and there is xubuntu,
and these are all suitable or even meant for old hardware. hardware you
cannot use with these ubuntu derivates anymore.  and there are many more
ubuntu based distros - get a clue at:
http://distrowatch.com/search.php?basedon=Ubuntu

so, deciding to drop non-pae ubuntu team also decided killing old
hardware, as users are more likely to switch to new hardware than
switching to a distro like debian.

>@ roland aus koeln: Keep in mind: a bug report disappears from list
once it's marked as invalid. But is also appears in trusty

i neither maintain this bug nor can i remember touching this bug`s
status information, i´m not even sure if i can change a bug`s status at
all.

what i really no not understand is why adding my rather non-intrusive
patch to the ubuntu kernel as a workaround to the "drop-non-
pae"-decision is such a no-go and why kernel devs telling they would
probably have a look and probably make a better version of it and then i
never ever get any response again. to me this looks like they neither
put attention on this issue nor do they appreciate/esteem work/fixes
from the user community, as the work i put into this is for nothing and
just a waste of time.

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Title:
  Unable to start Ubuntu 12.04 live CD with syslinux loader on Pentium M
  x86 Laptop due to bug in PAE kernel, initramfs or syslinux

Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in “syslinux” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't start from Desktop CD or USB with syslinux boot
  loader on Pentium M 1.6Ghz or faster Pentium M CPU - displays error
  message about missing PAE feature in CPU, but *the same* *Ubuntu
  12.04* Desktop CD/LiveUSB starts fine on *the same CPU* (and same PAE
  kernel) if GRUB boot loader is used, for example when WUBI or LiveUSB
  with GRUB boot loader, like Multisystem
  (http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install ) is used!

  The error message is:
  "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae.
  Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for you CPU."

  THIS IS AN IMPORTANT REGRESSION! People are able to install and successfully use Ubuntu 12.04 on such pretty new hardware, like IBM Thinkpad T42 laptop with Pentium M 1700Mhz processor, but the bug in syslinux (or something related) forbids Ubuntu 12.04 installation.
  This bug is reproducible on lots of computers, there are several log files and /proc/cpuinfo file attached to this bugreport, AFAIK it's enough to reopen this bug.

  ---
  ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu4
  Architecture: i386
  CurrentDmesg: Error: command ['sh', '-c', 'dmesg | comm -13 --nocheck-order /var/log/dmesg -'] failed with exit code 1: comm: /var/log/dmesg: Permission denied
  MachineType: IBM 2373PPU
  dmi.bios.date: 06/18/2007
  dmi.bios.vendor: IBM
  dmi.bios.version: 1RETDRWW (3.23 )
  dmi.board.name: 2373PPU
  dmi.board.vendor: IBM
  dmi.board.version: Not Available
  dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information
  dmi.chassis.type: 10
  dmi.chassis.vendor: IBM
  dmi.chassis.version: Not Available
  dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnIBM:bvr1RETDRWW(3.23):bd06/18/2007:svnIBM:pn2373PPU:pvrThinkPadT42:rvnIBM:rn2373PPU:rvrNotAvailable:cvnIBM:ct10:cvrNotAvailable:
  dmi.product.name: 2373PPU
  dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T42
  dmi.sys.vendor: IBM

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