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["phinitnan_c" <crackerizer@...>]

Dear Vesa,

I would love to join you and willing to help. My problem with kicad is always when creating a component without any standard. As I'm new to kicad development, could you point me to any draft/on-going work of library standard so i can keep up with you.

--- In kicad-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Vesa Solonen <vsolonen@...> wrote:
>
> Dick Hollenbeck kirjoitti:
> 
> > phinitnan_c wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I've created a set of library/package/3d and would like to share with
> > the group. How can i do that? I also think that it would be good if
> > there is a center repository for the library and make the lirary easier
> > to share.
> 
> My guess is that we all like to get this sorted, but I'm going to try
> persuade everyone to wait a bit. Why? Because the infrastructure is not
> ready yet. Current library system is IMO too limited for multiple
> reasons and I have to make a document similar to Dick's
> notes_about_pcbnew_new_file_format.odt found in KiCad SVN root, but
> regarding symbol-component library.
> 
> Most of all, we haven't yet agreed on symbol styling and naming rules.
> I've done some proposals about the style and they were generally
> accepted (no strong opposition, so I take them accepted...). Feel free
> to correct. Footprint naming was discussed some time ago, but decisions
> were left somewhat open.
> 
> > I'm sure you understand that we cannot allow just anyone to slam stuff
> > into the master library repo. Such a thing does exist on SVN, and Vesa
> > has been the maintainer of it. If you want stuff merged, send them to him.
> 
> The maintainer seems a bit too honorable to me as I haven't yet written
> _anything_ to that repo :) JP did the last addition, but I'm willing to
> take the library lead if we reach consensus that I have enough
> credibility to be the benevolent dictator there. I think "newlib"
> directory gets added for that.
> 
> > Vesa if you don't want this hat, maybe its time to start recruiting
> > help. We're going to have to have more defined roles to grow this
> > project without chaos. I like that you stepped up and volunteered to
> > wear a specific hat.
> 
> I'm very happy to get a defined role as a project librarian, no doubts
> about it. Something to consider before a real library rework includes at
> least following:
> 
> * Implementing one symbol to multiple component mapping
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-devel/message/3799
> 
> * Implementing pin and gate swapping
> 
> * Logical to electrical to physical mapping
> some components don't have logical or electrical polarity, but only
> physical (variable capacitor)
> 
> 
> * Everything must be abstracted as much as possible to get flexibilty
> and ease of use and maintenance.
> 
> * Is my style proposal good enough
> 
> 
> None of the above is not going to be fun or fast and I very probably end
> up being quite punctual regarding "libarary standards" because someones
> work depends on it (me included). That may also upset someone, but it
> won't be my intention. Be assured that I'll do my best to sort those
> possible upsets.
> 
> So in the end phinitnan_c, I'm very willing to work with you on this.
> 
> -Vesa
>