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Re: Kicad future documentation - first draft


good morning. I now understand many of your points.

I had a good look at the 3 Polish manuals you made and they look
brilliant ! really professional and good looking. I could have done
the same thing and just jump in it and do the English ones the way I
considered the best for me and I actually did it for the tutorial
"getting started in kicad", the problem with that is that different
people have different opinions and I have the impression that my
attitude should be to make everybody happy. That is why I am writing
this endless e-mail to you.

My proposition to you is to work together to find something that
pleases everybody. I have tried to do it already with this ocean of
icons that kicad has, now I am trying with the manuals. It might take
a while but it's ok.

If you have no interest in working together, it is all right too, I am
sure Jean-Pierre will know what to do with all our manuals and styles.

If you are interested I would propose to put out stuff you produce so
that people in the group can judge before everything is already done.
It was just a coincidence that I noticed that the Polish version of
the manuals had been already updated. My knowledge of Polish is not
far from your knowledge of Martian.

Here is what I did/think:

I am not sure green as a styling colour can be associated to a word
processor and not to a EDA tool. As you probably know, to create a
complete and good looking and professional looking  template for a
manual is not that easy, LibreOffice people did that and I thought it
could be a good idea to tag along with them on this by just using what
they have done (which in my opinion is a pretty good template).

I have removed the blue background and added a orange (like the arrow)
border (see attachment).

I do not remember the old Canonical/Ubuntu logo and I think it is not
a problem if it might look similar, if anybody sue us I'll redesign
something else ;-)

Icons in your manuals have changed considerably (maybe 100 of them),
by linking images instead of embedding them, you will be able to
update icons without having to change each of them in the document.

The current kicad logo (and manual cover) is just what I came up with,
any time somebody comes up with a better one, I am sure somebody
responsible of Kicad will correctly replace it without us having to

I hope this helps

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Kerusey Karyu <keruseykaryu@xxxxx> wrote:
> Dnia 2011-09-27, wto o godzinie 10:30 +0200, fabrizio pisze:
>> # What aspect of the KiCad icon don't you like? What icon would you
>> have in mind? Kicad icon is currently the dominant icon because it is
>> not the icon of an application per se but the icon of the whole suite,
>> therefore I though of giving it a general non-application look.
>> (...)
>> Are we talking about the KiCad icon or the icon in the manual cover?
> I see, you are a big fan of LibreOffice. I mean your icon on
> documentaton cover page in kicad.pdf. This graphics are very well
> inspired of LibreOffice logo. But. What is good for word processing
> software, ins't sometimes good for an EDA software suite.
>> Send me an .svg of what you might like.
> I'm not a graphic designer. :(
>> # What kind of icon would you like for CvPCB? Please, if you can, send
>> examples. Lots of improvement can be done with this icon.
> Just remove this blue background.
>> # What do you mean by "what the Canonical says"?
> Did You remember the older logos of Ubuntu or Kubuntu? Font, reflection
> under text... Just compare. See where will be the problem?
>> # What do you mean by "Your layout is too "polite""? If you have a
>> look at the style available in this template you can see that there
>> are styles for all possible element of a manual. This template is the
>> template of the official libreOffice documentation and It was designed
>> by several people who I think know stuff. I'm not sure I can do better
>> than them but If you think you can please send it to me and we can ask
>> around for opinions.
> My Kicad examples/proposal you can find in doc repository for a few
> weeks. Nobody said no, so I cotinue my work to create a polish one.
> Offical colour of LibreOffice is green. Why green should be good for
> KiCad too? Why LibreOffice templates should be good?
> Kerusey Karyu
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