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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 1/14/2013 3:12 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote:
> It's two different problems, 
> 
> 1) the fixswigimports.py fix the way swig (inside pcbnew.py) loads
> pcbnew.so/pyd <http://pcbnew.so/pyd> internally, the swig generated .py
> has problems to support "internal" (inside your own program) object
> bindings. It's documented, but not widespread used. We fix it to make it
> work in both cases, when doing "import pcbnew" from inside an
> scripting-pcbnew  and when doing import pcbnew from
> standalone/commandline python.
> 
> 2) At the time we started with scripting, I raised some discussion about
> this topic, and thought that python2.x has more widespread library
> support (compared to python 3 advantages). 

I'll take a look at it and see if I can make the KiCad scripting work on
Python 2 & 3.  I may have to write some creative CMake code to get it to
work but it should be possible.

I have a quick question regarding the KICAD_SCRIPTIN_WXPYTHON option.
When this option is enabled, is wxPython.h included in any of the SWIG
generated code.  I did quick grep of the scripting folders and didn't
see wxPython.h included anywhere so the only other place I can think
that it would end up is in the SWIG generated code.  If it's not, that
will make life a whole lot easier.  If it is, building wxPython on
Windows to install the development files is proving to be painful.

> 
> 
> It's also true, that, if we made the move now, and having phoenix in
> place, it could be less disruptive if we find ourselves forced to move
> into python3 at some moment in time. 
> 
> Anyway, that most probably would force us to move our wrappers into SIP
> and get the both "wrappings" (internal wrapping, external wrapping).
> 
> I'm not really opposed to do it, or do some testing, but I'm really
> concerned about:
> 
> 1) SIP support (no so widespread support at swig, that will let us work
> with other languages too)
> 2) SIP internal/external wrapping
> 3) Phoenix real support. (is it only a test branch or will it be
> supported in time?, it could also become the main branch at some time..)

Even if Phoenix becomes the default way to build wxPython, I see no
reason to switch from SWIG to SIP.  SWIG gives use the opportunity to
support other scripting languages.  SIP appears to be a Python only code
generator.

> 4) My time has become a little scarce: I have challenging big projects
> for this year, and also a new (first) daughter, which I love, but it's a
> time black hole 8]

There is no better way to spend your time than with your family.

> 
> 
> I think I dropped all my thoughts about the topic. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/14 Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> 
>     On 01/13/2013 06:57 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>     > On 1/13/2013 4:58 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote:
>     >>> The CMake module you were looking for is FindPythonInterp which
>     finds the Python interpreter and sets the PYTHON_EXECUTABLE
>     variable.  You can define a specific Python version by setting
>     PythonInterp_FIND_VERSION. I still have some validation to do on
>     Linux when both Python3 and Python2 are installed just to make sure
>     everything works as expected.
>     >>>
>     >>> Also found that using "#!/usr/bin/env python2" in
>     fixswigimports.py breaks the windows build so I am currently working
>     on a solution to this problem.  I changed python2 to python and it
>     fixes the build on windows but may cause problems for Linux.  I'm
>     thinking since the python interpreter is being called to run this
>     script that the "#!/usr/bin/env python2" line is even necessary.
>     >>> Is there any reason to run this script outside of the KiCad
>     scripting build?
>     >> It's only needed when we make a scripting build and the pcbnew.py
>     is regenerated. It will fix the way it looks for _pcbnew.so / .pyd
>     so when running from a pcbnew with embedded python, it won't
>     >> reload the DLL and use the internal swigs to pcbnew objects.
>     >>
>     >>> If not, then I should be able to safely remove this from
>     fixswigimports.py.  If it cannot be removed, I may have to use CMake
>     to generate this file on the fly to add the correct Python
>     environment string to the beginning of the file.
>     >> May be we can just call $PYTHON_EXECUTABLE fixswigimports.py,
>     most probably this little script will run within python3, but not sure.
>     > The last I recall is that code generated by SWIG is not yet compatible
>     > with Python 3.  That's why Python 2 is still required to build
>     wxPython.
>     >   It's been a while since I've used SWIG so maybe that has changed.
>     > Until I see a wxPython release built against Python 3, I'll stick with
>     > Python 2.
> 
>     Swig is there now:
> 
>     http://www.swig.org/Doc1.3/Python.html#Python_python3support
> 
>     wxpython for python 3.x is known as Phoenix, and it is also probably
>     build-able at this time.
> 
> 
>     But they did not do the interface to C++ in Phoenix using SWIG.
> 
> 
>     https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/wxpython-users/p69PjUnMN-c
> 
>     Used SIP instead:
> 
>     http://riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/sip/intro
> 
>     In any case it looks like python 3.x is an option, as it should be,
>     since its about 5
>     years old or more.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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