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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 2/21/2013 11:52 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote:
> Makes more sense, because, as it's independent, you can lately (if you
> add an improvement or fix), 
> send a pull / merge request on this file to the original author. With
> copy&paste you cannot do that.

When haven't you been able to copy and paste plain text into and from a
file?  The new file format design should be modular enough (at least
that was the design intent) that you could cut and paste any object (not
just  sheets) to and from a schematic.  This way you are free to use any
plain text sink or source to copy and paste schematic objects not just
files.  I'm not planning on reopening the schematic file format
discussion again since I think the current format is pretty well
defined.  If memory serves (at my age it sometimes doesn't), the
separate file issue was discussed (see the link in my previous post).
If someone else wants to reopen the discussion and has the time to own
the schematic file format document, I will gladly hand it over.

> 
> 
> 2013/2/21 Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <miguelangel@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:miguelangel@xxxxxxx>>
> 
>     I think copy&paste is not a perfect scenario for reusability,
> 
>     git/bzr/svn/etc cloning a module you already tested, that's in an
>     independent schematic
>     file/sheet makes a lot of sense for me.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     2013/2/21 Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> 
>         On 2/21/2013 10:53 AM, Ryan Sturmer wrote:
>         > Long time listener, first time writer.
>         >
>         > One sheet per file makes the most sense to me, as well.  The
>         way the
>         > project management is done right now is a little big awkward, IMO.
>         >  KiCAD seems to want to generate project files and stuff when
>         I don't
>         > want them.  I am also an Altium Designer user, and I find it's
>         project
>         > management functionality to be pretty sensible, for the most part.
>         >
>         > -R
> 
>         If you don't have anything to do for a couple of hours (days?),
>         see the
>         original discussion about the new schematic file format:
> 
>         https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg06358.html
> 
>         There is no plan to have separate files for each sheet.  The new
>         design
>         will be infinitely more modular than the current design and should
>         greatly simplify complex hierarchy code and file format compared
>         to what
>         we currently have.  The new design will make it possible to
>         support cut
>         and paste and indirectly drag and drop.  Individual files do not
>         make
>         the schematic structure more modular.  A superior design does.  Once
>         this gets implemented (probably not any time soon), I think it
>         will make
>         a lot more sense.
> 
>         Wayne
> 
>         >
>         >
>         > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
>         > <miguelangel@xxxxxxx <mailto:miguelangel@xxxxxxx>
>         <mailto:miguelangel@xxxxxxx <mailto:miguelangel@xxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>         >
>         >     Agree about that it's important to let the multi-sheets be
>         split
>         >     across many files.
>         >
>         >     And I like the functionality you're proposing related to
>         schematics
>         >     + scripting. It's awesome and innovative in fact.
>         >
>         >     Miguel Angel Ajo
>         >     http://www.nbee.es
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>         >     On 21/02/2013, at 15:06, Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>         >     <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>         >
>         >     > Exactly.
>         >     >
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