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[Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <miguelangel@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Wayne, sorry for reopening this thread,  I think (may be I'm wrong) I
wasn't here
at the moment that thread happened, and I couldn't expose my opinion.

    I understand the copy&paste functionality from/to clipboard, although
extremely useful
and something that kicad will benefit from, yet doesn't seem like a natural
way to maintain designs
modules in a [D]VCS environment for me.

    Anyway, if we (I) have more time in the future, and I can help on doing
a file format definition review, I'd like to think about the workflow this
format would (or wouldn't)
impose. I don't have the time or strength right now.


   Sincerely,
Mike.







2013/2/21 Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx>

> On 2/21/2013 11:52 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote:
> > Makes more sense, because, as it's independent, you can lately (if you
> > add an improvement or fix),
> > send a pull / merge request on this file to the original author. With
> > copy&paste you cannot do that.
>
> When haven't you been able to copy and paste plain text into and from a
> file?  The new file format design should be modular enough (at least
> that was the design intent) that you could cut and paste any object (not
> just  sheets) to and from a schematic.  This way you are free to use any
> plain text sink or source to copy and paste schematic objects not just
> files.  I'm not planning on reopening the schematic file format
> discussion again since I think the current format is pretty well
> defined.  If memory serves (at my age it sometimes doesn't), the
> separate file issue was discussed (see the link in my previous post).
> If someone else wants to reopen the discussion and has the time to own
> the schematic file format document, I will gladly hand it over.
>
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/21 Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <miguelangel@xxxxxxx
> > <mailto:miguelangel@xxxxxxx>>
> >
> >     I think copy&paste is not a perfect scenario for reusability,
> >
> >     git/bzr/svn/etc cloning a module you already tested, that's in an
> >     independent schematic
> >     file/sheet makes a lot of sense for me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     2013/2/21 Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >
> >         On 2/21/2013 10:53 AM, Ryan Sturmer wrote:
> >         > Long time listener, first time writer.
> >         >
> >         > One sheet per file makes the most sense to me, as well.  The
> >         way the
> >         > project management is done right now is a little big awkward,
> IMO.
> >         >  KiCAD seems to want to generate project files and stuff when
> >         I don't
> >         > want them.  I am also an Altium Designer user, and I find it's
> >         project
> >         > management functionality to be pretty sensible, for the most
> part.
> >         >
> >         > -R
> >
> >         If you don't have anything to do for a couple of hours (days?),
> >         see the
> >         original discussion about the new schematic file format:
> >
> >         https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg06358.html
> >
> >         There is no plan to have separate files for each sheet.  The new
> >         design
> >         will be infinitely more modular than the current design and
> should
> >         greatly simplify complex hierarchy code and file format compared
> >         to what
> >         we currently have.  The new design will make it possible to
> >         support cut
> >         and paste and indirectly drag and drop.  Individual files do not
> >         make
> >         the schematic structure more modular.  A superior design does.
>  Once
> >         this gets implemented (probably not any time soon), I think it
> >         will make
> >         a lot more sense.
> >
> >         Wayne
> >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
> >         > <miguelangel@xxxxxxx <mailto:miguelangel@xxxxxxx>
> >         <mailto:miguelangel@xxxxxxx <mailto:miguelangel@xxxxxxx>>>
> wrote:
> >         >
> >         >     Agree about that it's important to let the multi-sheets be
> >         split
> >         >     across many files.
> >         >
> >         >     And I like the functionality you're proposing related to
> >         schematics
> >         >     + scripting. It's awesome and innovative in fact.
> >         >
> >         >     Miguel Angel Ajo
> >         >     http://www.nbee.es
> >         >     +34911407752 <tel:%2B34911407752>
> >         >     skype: ajoajoajo
> >         >
> >         >     On 21/02/2013, at 15:06, Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >         >     <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> wrote:
> >         >
> >         >     > Exactly.
> >         >     >
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> >     Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
> >     http://www.nbee.es
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> >     skype: ajoajoajo
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>


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Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
http://www.nbee.es
+34 636 52 25 69
skype: ajoajoajo