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[Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Pcbnew work is not a large task, because of our excellent foundations.
Three man weeks approximately to do server and client.  It could be done in
parallel with fp lib table work, but would only be functional within pcbnew
after fp lib table is done.  Scaffolding would allow parallel development.

I have a qeue of boards I need designed.
Maybe bartering or ablend is possible also.

Eeschema is a rewrite, before we could do sweet, and is a massive amount of
work.


On Apr 14, 2013 8:38 PM, "Adam Wolf" <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Dick,
>
> Do you have any sort of swag of what sort of funding it'd take to do
> the planned library improvements for eeschema and pcbnew?  $10k? $25k?
> If you don't want to say without nailing down a lot more details,
> that's totally understood.  I'm just curious as to if that's something
> Wayne and Layne could fund.
>
> Adam Wolf
> Wayne and Layne, LLC
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2013 10:20 AM, "Andreas Butti" <andreas_b123@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everybody
> >>
> >> I'm new to the KiCad mailing list. I'm a computer scientists, in my free
> >> time I sometimes use KiCad.
> >>
> >> I had some Ideas to improve the project tree, and if the community
> thinks
> >> they are useful I may can implement them.
> >>
> >> What I would change the tree to the following format:
> >>
> >> - Root: Workspace (instead of Project)
> >>     - Projects
> >>         - Project A
> >>         - Project B
> >>         - Project C
> >>     - Templates
> >>         -MyTemplate A
> >>         -MyTemplate B
> >>     - Libraries
> >>         - AVRs
> >>         - RGB LED PLCC6
> >>
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> If you now clicks to "Projects" you get on the right side the options to
> >> - Create a new Project
> >> - Create a new Project from Template
> >>
> >> If you click to "Template" you get the options
> >> - Create a new template
> >> - Search for templates [INPUT FIELD]
> >> - [List with newest online templates, can be downloaded]
> >>
> >> If you click to "Libraries"you get the options:
> >> - Create a new library
> >> - Search for libraries [INPU TFIELD]
> >> - [List with newest online libraries, can be downloaded]
> >>
> >> if you click to a Project you get the start screen you now have:
> >> - On top the buttons to start Eeschema, CvPcb etc.
> >> - Below is not the Log output, there is
> >>     - A Field for a Project Description (I think text, maybe RTF)
> >>     - A list to assign Libraries to the project. The Libraries are
> managed
> >> in the workspace
> >>
> >>
> >> And now the technical background:
> >> Add workspace, new views on the right etc. is not much to do. It means
> we
> >> need additional to the project also a workspace file.
> >>
> >> For downloading Libs or Template we have to opinions:
> >> - Define a standard, everybody who wants to provide libraries has to
> >> implement this interface (e.g. REST)
> >> - Allow Plug ins
> >>
> >> I would do a mix of both, we should define a standard with REST, but  we
> >> should implement the client in a scripting language. We can e.g. use
> python
> >> or javascript. (e.g. https://developers.google.com/v8/embed)
> >>
> >
> > Hi Andreas.
> >
> > I think for pcbnew that the client should be a c++ plugin, using support
> for
> > such http in wx, and put that client in our class PLUGIN found in pcbnew
> > directory.  That is an additional implementation of PLUGIN.  It will be
> easy
> > to instantiate PLUGIN s soon with fp lib table support, and you can put
> the
> > url in the fp lib table.
> >
> > So you're suggestions are not new ideas.
> >
> > Http and REST are what I was thinking also for a long time now.
> >
> > A simple rest server could be provided in python since users will have
> that
> > language installed and it is
> > cross platform, could run from the same python already installed using a
> > pure python server, or could run as a pyhon module inside apache or
> nginx.
> >
> > For eeschema I had been hoping to do the thing described down in the
> > /new directory someday with funding.
> >
> >> Then its easy to add 3rd party sites, e.g. if somebody wants to share
> his
> >> libraries or templates on github it only needs a github client
> javascript
> >> and we can access such libraries from main KiCad screen.
> >>
> >> What do you think about?
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >>
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