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[Fabrizio Tappero <fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi there,
an other possible layer toolbar a little less colourful.

Regards
Fabrizio

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Fabrizio Tappero
<fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> could you please elaborate a little more on the composite widget? En
> example would be great. I'll think about the color overload and white
> text.
> cheers
> Fabrizio
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Wayne Stambaugh
> <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 4/15/2013 12:17 PM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> In attachment an other possible implementation, in my opinion the best
>>> one.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Fabrizio
>>>
>>
>> This implementation is a little busy (think color overload) for my tastes.
>> I would rather see a composite widget for selecting the color and enabling
>> the layer assuming it could be done in a way that it's function was obvious
>> the to user.  Also, on some of the lighter colors the white text does not
>> show up very well.  That being said, a more fundamental question, is the
>> amount of work required to save the width of one check box worth the effort?
>> There is already way to hide the layer manager for low resolution devices
>> where space is a premium. Assigning an accelerator key to it would probably
>> make it more useful. You would probably save more space if you provided a
>> set of 16 pixel button images for the toolbars or use a custom theme with
>> smaller control designs.  This is very much an issue with some of the GTK+
>> controls on Linux.  Also please keep in mind that the decision not to
>> support low resolution devices was made a long time ago.  I don't see that
>> policy changing any time soon.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Fabrizio Tappero
>>> <fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>> Colours on the standard controls are system-defined (depends on what wx
>>>>> is running on); the colour swatch button or the little arrow beside the
>>>>> layer name is handled by us so (with some work) we could conceivably add
>>>>> some extra UI functionality here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe change the checkbox colour isn't a good idea because it will
>>>> lower usability in the sense that people might not see any more that
>>>> it is a checkbox. Proposal 3 and proposal 4 can achieve the same thing
>>>> and be even better. The current blue arrow is a little strange, a
>>>> black border will be probably better.
>>>>
>>>>> A thing I don't like with the current arrangement is having to use the
>>>>> third button to change layer colour (good luck with laptops...) when it
>>>>> can be usefully done in this way:
>>>>> - Click on the button: change color
>>>>> - Click on the layer name: change layer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hum, don't know, this way will be pretty hard for people to guess the
>>>> functionality. the current middle button click functionality is also
>>>> quite hidden (but I like it). Maybe a simple "right click - change
>>>> layer color" is easier. Alternatively we can put and edit link at the
>>>> bottom of the layer panel. Edit button would maybe also difficult to
>>>> guess, or maybe not.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the layer name is sufficiently big as a target to click to
>>>>> change layer :D also the whole 3D border for the button is not needed
>>>>> for the colour swatch, a simple flat border would suffice (thing about
>>>>> the GIMP color indicator)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> completely agree, as long as the is a white border when not selected.
>>>>
>>>>
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