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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 4/16/2013 6:37 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
> Hi there,
> an other possible layer toolbar a little less colourful.
> 
> Regards
> Fabrizio

Much better.  You also solved the text contrast issue.

> 
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Fabrizio Tappero
> <fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>> could you please elaborate a little more on the composite widget? En
>> example would be great. I'll think about the color overload and white
>> text.
>> cheers
>> Fabrizio
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Wayne Stambaugh
>> <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 4/15/2013 12:17 PM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> In attachment an other possible implementation, in my opinion the best
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>
>>>
>>> This implementation is a little busy (think color overload) for my tastes.
>>> I would rather see a composite widget for selecting the color and enabling
>>> the layer assuming it could be done in a way that it's function was obvious
>>> the to user.  Also, on some of the lighter colors the white text does not
>>> show up very well.  That being said, a more fundamental question, is the
>>> amount of work required to save the width of one check box worth the effort?
>>> There is already way to hide the layer manager for low resolution devices
>>> where space is a premium. Assigning an accelerator key to it would probably
>>> make it more useful. You would probably save more space if you provided a
>>> set of 16 pixel button images for the toolbars or use a custom theme with
>>> smaller control designs.  This is very much an issue with some of the GTK+
>>> controls on Linux.  Also please keep in mind that the decision not to
>>> support low resolution devices was made a long time ago.  I don't see that
>>> policy changing any time soon.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Fabrizio Tappero
>>>> <fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Colours on the standard controls are system-defined (depends on what wx
>>>>>> is running on); the colour swatch button or the little arrow beside the
>>>>>> layer name is handled by us so (with some work) we could conceivably add
>>>>>> some extra UI functionality here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe change the checkbox colour isn't a good idea because it will
>>>>> lower usability in the sense that people might not see any more that
>>>>> it is a checkbox. Proposal 3 and proposal 4 can achieve the same thing
>>>>> and be even better. The current blue arrow is a little strange, a
>>>>> black border will be probably better.
>>>>>
>>>>>> A thing I don't like with the current arrangement is having to use the
>>>>>> third button to change layer colour (good luck with laptops...) when it
>>>>>> can be usefully done in this way:
>>>>>> - Click on the button: change color
>>>>>> - Click on the layer name: change layer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hum, don't know, this way will be pretty hard for people to guess the
>>>>> functionality. the current middle button click functionality is also
>>>>> quite hidden (but I like it). Maybe a simple "right click - change
>>>>> layer color" is easier. Alternatively we can put and edit link at the
>>>>> bottom of the layer panel. Edit button would maybe also difficult to
>>>>> guess, or maybe not.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the layer name is sufficiently big as a target to click to
>>>>>> change layer :D also the whole 3D border for the button is not needed
>>>>>> for the colour swatch, a simple flat border would suffice (thing about
>>>>>> the GIMP color indicator)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> completely agree, as long as the is a white border when not selected.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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