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[Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Apr 29, 2013 3:07 AM, "Edwin van den Oetelaar" <edwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> Just found this paper.
> http://swwxguitesting.wefi.net/MPhilThesisChapterSwWxGuiTesting.pdf (about
automated gui testing with wx)
> I personally think more gui code should move from C++ to python for easy
development and interactive testing.

Are you hoping portions get rewritten in wxpython? Or just that new code be
written in wxpython?  How good is wxpython?


> Keep it going!!
> Greetings,
> Edwin van den Oetelaar
>
>
> 2013/4/28 Miguel Angel Ajo <miguelangel@xxxxxxx>
>>
>> I agree that some kind of automated QA tests for the project would be
great, Adam wolf and I
>> had a conversation about that recently.
>>
>> I've seen many projects dramatically increasing quality because of
regression testing. I'm not
>> sure how well is wx prepared for the UI parts, but we can do it for sure
at objects level.
>>
>> Even, to reduce the test development time, we could even think of
writing the tests in python
>> directly, at least at pcbnew  I think it can be done.
>>
>>
>> Miguel Angel Ajo
>> http://www.nbee.es
>> +34911407752
>> skype: ajoajoajo
>>
>> On Sunday, 28 de April de 2013 at 17:54, Brian Sidebotham wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I'm just catching up with the list, and I saw something that caught my
eye as it's something that's been on my mind for a while:
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>>
>>> Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>>>
>>> - Right now, I am finding too many bugs in the software ...
>>>
>>> - We might do well as a team by slowing down and focusing
>>> - on reliability and quality not features for awhile.  Firstly,
>>> - the bugs are damaging to the project.
>>>
>>> ---------------------------
>>>
>>> I agree with this, there are things I'd like to add to KiCad, but only
on-top of something I can be confident I'm not breaking, especially by
creating corner case issues.
>>>
>>> I would like us to think about regression testing using something like
CTest (Which would make sense as we're currently using CMake anyway!). We
could then publish dashboard regression testing results.
>>>
>>> I'm aware work is going into making eeschema and PCBNEW essentially
into DLL's, so perhaps it's best to wait until that work is complete before
starting down this road?
>>>
>>> In particular I'd like to see regression testing on the DRC, Gerber
generation, and the Python exposed API. Probably in that order of priority
too. Certainly the Python API changes are already tripping us up, but only
when they have already been broken in committed code.
>>>
>>> Being able to regression test changes to optimisations and code tidying
will help that move along anyway as you can be more confident in your
changes having complete coverage once the number of tests increases.
>>>
>>> I am prepared to say that I'll undertake this work too. Obviously it
can't start straight away as I'm currently doing work on the Windows
scripting build system and python-a-mingw-us packaging.
>>>
>>> Is anyone against regression testing, or have alternatives that would
achieve similar confidence in committed code? My vote is for regression
testing.
>>>
>>> We would need good support from all, new code requires new tests, and
nobody is better suited to devising the tests than the person who specified
the new functionality - which means all developers would probably end up
writing test cases at some point.
>>>
>>> Best Regards, Brian.
>>>
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