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[Chris Morgan <chmorgan@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thoughts?

I'm thinking it would address everyone's concerns, the two types of move
could be kept and new users could be helped to know the differences between
the two (and taught the hotkey values) so they wouldn't have to fuss over
whether their custom parts had the correct pin modes defined (input, output
etc).

I could do a mockup of this particular hint if it would help and also
implement the framework for the feature.

Chris





On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Chris Morgan <chmorgan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ahh I see.
>
> Maybe kicad could have a teaching mode that could popup a hint dialog
> until the user either saw all hints or dismissed them. Could activate it by
> default so new users would see it and make it context sensitive.
>
> Upon use of move or drag the user would be informed of the two commands,
> their hot keys and what each does.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 13, 2013, Adam Wolf wrote:
>
>> There's plenty.  If you need to move some stuff away to make some
>> changes, and then want to move them back without redoing all your
>> wires.  For example, if you have two sets of things hooked together,
>> on the same bus, and you realize you need to put a level shifter
>> between them, you can move one set of labels off, add a shifter, add
>> some small wires and move your labels back.  Just did that about 20
>> minutes ago.
>>
>> By dragging out you would have affected the wires hooked to the
>> labels.  I definitely use both all the time as well.
>>
>> Adam Wolf
>> Wayne and Layne, LLC
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Chris Morgan <chmorgan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi Dick.
>> >
>> > For eeschema, in particular, what is the usage case for moving a
>> component
>> > without the attached wires/busses?
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, June 13, 2013, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 13, 2013 5:27 AM, "Chris Morgan" <chmorgan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi.
>> >> >
>> >> > Just got bit by the move vs. drag issue in eeschema where I was
>> moving
>> >> > parts and couldn't figure out why wires weren't sticking.
>> >> >
>> >> > What I couldn't find is the user experience justification for having
>> a
>> >> > separate move vs. drag feature. There are a ton of posts on the
>> Internet
>> >> > about the same confusion so I figured we could have a discussion
>> about the
>> >> > "why" that might lead to improving the user experience.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris
>> >>
>> >> I use both.  Would miss either. New users should do the learning, not
>> >> experienced kicad users.
>> >>
>> >> Software takes time to get used to.
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