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[Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 31, 2013 8:24 PM, "Dick Hollenbeck" <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>
> On Aug 31, 2013 5:40 PM, "Brian Sidebotham" <brian.sidebotham@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> >
> > On 31 August 2013 22:06, Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > I just upgraded to openssl 1.0.1e, and am now building the DLL fine
in a-mingw-us,
> >> > although I think this 'e' version had nothing to do with this.
 Seems the Configure script
> >> > is picky about sequence of arguments.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We now need to package the openssl DLL goodies so they can flow into
a situation where
> >> > windows builders of GITHUB_PLUGIN can use those.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Come to think of it, I don't know how I am going to find the openssl
headers on Windows
> >> for the GITHUB plugin.  Certainly we cannot expect them to flow with a
KiCad installation.
> >>
> >> Maybe we will simply need to reproduce the ExternalProject_Add() in
the GITHUB plugin
> >> CMakeFile, conditioned on Windows.   Gosh yes, what was I thinking?
> >>
> >>
> >> How you guys stay on Windows is beyond me.   The package management
concept has long been
> >> an established concept.  But "add/remove programs" is a joke by
comparison.
> >>
> >>
> >> Then, you have competing C++ compilers so the story would have be told
in duplicate
> >> anyways.  I don't expect MSVC to be around much longer, given that it
does not generate
> >> revenue (not like the Android patent blackmailing is).    And Android
is showing up
> >> everywhere now, including wrist watches.  I give MSVC about another 6
years max.
> >>
> >>
> >> How good can that be for your character, knowing that most of your
revenue is coming from
> >> patent blackmail?  Maybe Mr. B is retiring because of that.  (Note I
am assuming he has
> >> that much quality of character.)
> >>
> >> You hear that New Zealand just outlawed software patents?  Call your
representatives
> >> please.  It will take a lot of voices to drown out the voice from
Microsoft, which as I
> >> mentioned, now gets a lot of patent revenue from Android OEMs, who are
not strong enough
> >> to fight back.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I thought about the header/dependency situation for SSL after your
previous email. I understand your frustration, believe me!
> >
> > Perhaps Apple will stop suing people for making black boxes without
their permission, or charging people for manufacturing a bluetooth device
that is to connect to one of their devices too. But it'll never happen. The
cogs will keep turning and we'll have to sort the crap out.
> >
> > With regards to the compiler situation; As much as I don't really
appreciate MSVC, the execution speed differential of GCC (with -O2
optimisations) and MSVC compiled wxWidgets samples is incredible. MSVC wins
by an order of magnitude, especially for start-up times. I wanted to
investigate the ELF header information. Apparently GCC can be a bit overly
verbose with regards to ELF information which can slow load times
significantly.
> >
>
> The code is relocatable.  Maybe it has been prerelocated.
>

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Executable

Read about "relocations".


>
> > Anyway, I'm kind of glad to hear the scripting window is not uniquely
broken on Windows builds. In that case, I can forget about fixing it before
releasing scripting through KiCad-Winbuilder. So I can get on and release
that ASAP then. :)
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Brian.