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[Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx>]

Right.  I get that for the loadable bundles the application is still KiCad, but for those applications there’s no second icon, which is probably better behavior.  Then you only have the problem of them having a Quit menu item that does not quit the application but just unloads the bundle, which I’d argue will be surprising behavior for most mac users.

The new issue that is bundle related is that for the applications that don’t do this, the ones that launch a separate process, the new bundling deprives them of their icon and they look indistinguishable from the main application.  These, I think, should have their icons back until such time as they are integrated in the same way as eeschema and pcbnew (or can dynamically change their icon).  I’d just like to be able to build bundles for these so that I can integrate them into my bundle in a different way.  They don’t have to build bundles by default, but it’d be nice if I could build a separate target.


Garth

On Oct 4, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> most of your observations are as far as I can see not a problem of the bundles itself, but of the KiCad modular concept (kiface).
> When you launch pcbnew et al. from KiCad launcher the correct “application” is only loaded as a module, so the main application is still kicad launcher and I guess that’s why you for example see the same name, they do not have their own icon, etc.
> 
> For the “dock roulette” there is possibly a way to set the application icon of window dynamically using wxWidgets.
> Something to try… I guess behavior is the same on Linux/Windows, so the might als benefit.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> On 04.10.2014, at 09:30, Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I finally had a chance to build and try out the new all-inclusive OS X application bundles and I’ve encountered a couple of issues that tend to reduce the usability a bit for me.
>> 
>> First, an observation unrelated to the new bundles.  I noticed with mainline builds on OS X, some of the subsidiary applications, specifically eeshcema and pcbnew, no longer have their own name in the application menu.  Instead they have the name of the main application, KiCad.
>> 
>> This is fine and I assumed it’s part of an effort to improve integration between the applications.  On OS X, though, it’s a bit weird because the application menu still has an entry to “Quit pcbnew” and selecting that or Cmd-Q will indeed quit the sub-application, leaving you with a KiCad application menu as it switched back the the main app.  Not really a huge issue but is can be confusing and if you’re not paying attention you can accidentally quit your main app.  Not cool.
>> 
>> The additional things I’m seeing with the new bundling is that now the applications the previously did launch as separate applications, even when launched from the main app, now have no icon of their own.  They get the icon of the main kicad.app.  So if I launch, say, gerbview and pcb_calculator, I’ve now got three KiCad icons in my dock with no idea which one belongs to which application.  I have to play icon roulette to find out.  With the new CMakeLists.txt changes for these applications it seems there’s no way to go back to building individual application bundles for them without hacking and slashing.
>> 
>> Any chance we can get back the ability to make bundles for these?  I’d go so far as to recommend that the bundles be included wholesale in an Applications directory int the main bundle, but I’d at least like the option of building them as bundles separately.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
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