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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi folks,

I threw together a PPA today, with the source packages of wxpython3 and
wxwidgets3 from 14.10, rebuilt for 14.04.  It was relatively painless,
after I modified the backport package script I was using to let me make
arbitrary changes :)  I added mesa-common-dev as a build-dependency for
wxpython3.  (It looks like the Ubuntu folks added this dependency for
wxpython3 in August, and then in the next update, accidentally removed it.)

I have to stop working on this today, but if someone wants to play around
with it from here before I write more instructions...

https://launchpad.net/~adamwolf/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-trusty-backports

Don't let the Launchpad page fool you--there are 37 binary packages in the
PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~adamwolf/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-trusty-backports/+packages
).

Nick made some progress while I was on a walk this afternoon--I didn't
quite follow everything he did, so I continued this work.

Adam Wolf
Cofounder and Engineer
W&L

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On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> The plan is that most users will not compile KiCad.
>
> This PPA will, at first, only contain the back ports of any packages
> needed to build KiCad on 14.04.
>
> In terms of new regular binary release, OS X is the first on my list, but
> it is very close, thanks to the help of everyone on this list.
>
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> W&L
> On Oct 18, 2014 5:28 PM, "Jake" <jake@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Adam for your work on this.
>>
>> I haven't been back at sudoroom (where I am trying to install kicad) to
>> test the fixes that were mentioned below, but I think that anything that
>> makes it easier to install kicad is good.  Ideally it will be possible for
>> ubuntu 12.04 to install kicad by following instructions - keep in mind that
>> 12.04 is LONG TERM SUPPORT and is still run by many people around the
>> world, for good reasons.
>>
>> Will this PPA also include KiCAD itself? :) :) :)
>>
>> -jake (dreaming of the good old wxgtk2.8 days)
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>
>>  I spent quite a few hours on this today.  I set up a PPA, did a backport
>>> of wxpython3 (which provides most of these packages), and uploaded it.  The
>>> build on the Ubuntu servers
>>> fails, due to the package not specifying mesa-common-dev as a
>>> build-depends.  (This issue is fixed in Debian, for what it's worth.)
>>> I pinged the folks on the #ubuntu-packaging IRC in order to figure out
>>> what my next step is, but I haven't gotten a reply yet.
>>>
>>> Harrumph.
>>>
>>> Adam Wolf
>>> Cofounder and Engineer
>>> W&L
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Carl Poirier <carl.poirier.2@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>       > i did try this and it said it couldn't satisfy the dependancies..
>>> Hi Jake, you can still install the package this way, inserting the
>>> dependencies that need to be ignored. I built recent KiCads this way.
>>>
>>> sudo dpkg --install --ignore-depends=_______ python-wxgtk3.0.deb
>>> > If I can find a few savvy volunteers here who use their 14.04 machines
>>> regularly and also want to test this for me, I can propose it be included
>>> in official backports.
>>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>> My main machine is running Xubuntu 14.04. I can test this for you during
>>> a few weeks. After that, I plan tu update to 14.10 myself.
>>>
>>> Do I have to compile with KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON, or only
>>> KICAD_SCRIPTING?
>>>
>>> Let me know when the backports are ready.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>       Hi Adam
>>>
>>>       I have an ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) available, but I don't use it daily
>>>       though. I can still test the packages for you.
>>>
>>>       Nick
>>>
>>>       2014-10-18 15:20 GMT+02:00 Adam Wolf <
>>> adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>       > *sigh*
>>>       >
>>>       > I have begun the backports process.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
>>> UbuntuBackports
>>>       >
>>>       > What this means is that I am creating a PPA of packages that are
>>> needed for
>>>       > KiCad and are already in 14.10 (utopic), but rejiggering the
>>> packages so
>>>       > they're meant for 14.04 (trusty).
>>>       >
>>>       > If I can find a few savvy volunteers here who use their 14.04
>>> machines
>>>       > regularly and also want to test this for me, I can propose it be
>>> included in
>>>       > official backports.
>>>       >
>>>       > Hopefully this goes as smoothly as getting wxWidgets 3.0 working
>>> on this
>>>       > week's OS X release.  (Sometimes I feel we spend more time
>>> working on our
>>>       > dependencies than on KiCad!)
>>>       >
>>>       > Adam Wolf
>>>       > Cofounder and Engineer
>>>       > Wayne and Layne, LLC
>>>       >
>>>       > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Jake <jake@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>       >>
>>>       >> i did try this and it said it couldn't satisfy the
>>> dependancies..
>>>       >>
>>>       >>
>>>       >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>>       >>
>>>       >>> So did you ever try what Moses suggested?
>>>       >>>
>>>       >>> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg15067.html
>>>       >>>
>>>       >>> 2014-10-18 10:30 GMT+02:00 Jake <jake@xxxxxxxx>:
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> so i'm trying to install kicad on a fresh install of Ubuntu
>>> 14.04, which
>>>       >>>> is
>>>       >>>> this years' long-term support version of Ubuntu.
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> it should be easy right?
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> but immediately, the kicad-install.sh script says
>>>       >>>> E: Unable to locate package python-wxgtk3.0
>>>       >>>> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'python-wxgtk3.0'
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> i looked into it and i see that python-wxgtk3.0 is only
>>> available for
>>>       >>>> bleeding-edge installs of Ubuntu 14.10 which only just now
>>> came out.
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> this is very frustrating and basically means that anyone not
>>> running
>>>       >>>> literally the latest system software can't install kicad.  Is
>>> this
>>>       >>>> really
>>>       >>>> necessary?  I have python-wxgtk2.8 available to me, is that
>>> not
>>>       >>>> sufficient?
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> I am not an expert with aptitude and sources, and i have no
>>> idea how to
>>>       >>>> get
>>>       >>>> python-wxgtk3.0 onto my system, so i just installed
>>> python-wxgtk2.8
>>>       >>>> and i took out that line from kicad-install.sh and i'm trying
>>> again.
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> but if possible, i think it would be ideal if this
>>> requirement were
>>>       >>>> taken
>>>       >>>> out.  I can't in good conscience keep telling people that
>>> they should
>>>       >>>> switch
>>>       >>>> to kicad if i can't even figure out how to install it myself.
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> apologies if i'm missing something basic, or if my tone is
>>> frustrated.
>>>       >>>>
>>>       >>>> thank you,
>>>       >>>> -jake
>>>       >>>>
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