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[Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for trying this out, guys.  I’d also like to see this get into the mainline, but I think there are a few hurdles to get over first.  The pinch-to-zoom should be easy; It’s completely optional and has to be compiled in so there’s no impact to other platforms, but as I’ve said, it’s less useful by itself.  The issue for the rest is that it changes some longstanding behavior, and I’m pretty sure just the idea will annoy some folks.

I’ve seen very little complaint about the large mousewheel panning steps on other platforms aside from a couple of ancient bugs.  I think I’d be hard pressed to convince anyone to change something that isn’t perceived as broken.  I’ve tried not to do anything egregious here, and I tested this with a couple of plain old mice, but I have no way to evaluate this on the other platforms. Does either of you have access to Windows or Linux boxes to try this on?

To me, the large panning steps make little sense for a mousewheel, and even less so on a trackpad.  This is a big deal on a platform where every system in the past several years has sold with input devices with x/y scrolling and precise deltas (effectively trackpads).  Maybe not so much on other platforms, I don’t know.


Thanks again,

Garth


On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I also really like this patch.  Excellent work.
> 
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> W&L
> 
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> works perfect for me… with trackpad and also Magic/Mighty Mouse (without pinch-to-zoom for the mice of course).
> Tested with the pinch-to-zoom wxWidgets patch on 3.0.2, KiCad changes merged into 5249.
> 
> I would really love to see this getting merged to main line.
> It not only makes panning more OSX like, but also is a great usability improvement (at least on OSX where nowadays all mice/trackpads do have x/y scrolling capability).
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> 
> On 31.10.2014, at 18:45, Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi, all
> >
> > I’ve pushed a branch containing some changes that I use to make kicad more livable for me on OS X.  This is mostly for Apple Magic Trackpad users, but I’d be curious to hear from mousewheel users on OS X, or even Linux and Windows users if they were inclined to try out these changes.
> >
> > The changes are basically in two parts.  The first is optional and requires an additional patch to wxWidgets on OS X, and that kicad be compiled with a feature macro turned on (updated instructions in compiling/mac-osx.txt).  This enables pinch-to-zoom.
> >
> > The rest does not require any changes in the way things are built.  This adds a preference for the default mousewheel function and changes the way panning is done; It does not change the way mousewheel zooming behaves (but perhaps should).
> >
> > For best results on a trackpad I recommend compiling with the pinch-to-zoom support and checking “Use mousewheel to pan” in the preferences of the various apps.
> >
> > If you’re a Mac trackpad user and have a spare few moments, please give these changes a try and let me know how they work for you.  They’re in lp:~gcorral/kicad/osx-trackpad-gestures
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Garth
> >
> >
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