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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

An update with more appropriate arrows and the correct font! :)



On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Thanks.  That first response by me really made me sound grumpy--I wish I
> could unsend it!
>
> I think the drag and drop is good for nightlies, but if we make a package
> and put it in the App Store, we get around the issues from drag and drop,
> as long as we follow Apple policy on where to put stufff (which I think we
> do, thanks to Bernhard and all the other OS X Kicad devs scattered
> throughout time and space).
>
> I expect there will be discussion and certainly some  modification s after
> the next progress update, but then I am going to ask Wayne what he wants me
> to work on next for packaging -- Windows, some Linux, or pursue getting
> Kicad into the Mac App Store (for free of course) so Mac folks can install
> the upcoming "stable" versions through the App Store.
>
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> W&L
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 4:11 PM Martijn Kuipers <martijn.kuipers@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Adam, and others,
>>
>> I myself several years ago tried a OS X package and know the pain it
>> gives. I think the Drag & Drop you have is fine.
>>
>> If you want to do more interesting things, then I would like to suggest a
>> program called Packages (http://s.sudre.free.fr/
>> Software/Packages/about.html).
>> It should even allow to add multiple bundles and have the user choose
>> what to install.
>>
>> Although I am not sure how to incorporate that into a cake-build, but I
>> guess we have some of the most knowledgeable cmake-builders (people) on
>> board.
>>
>> Adam, please do not take this as a complaint. I think the work you have
>> done for OS X users is excellent. I just happen to stumble upon this and
>> think it might be of help, alleviating some of your pains ;-)
>>
>> Anyway, to you and the entire KiCad list: A Merry Christmas and thanks
>> for KiCad.
>>
>> /Martijn
>>
>>
>> On 23 Dec 2014, at 21:27, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!  Great eye!
>>
>> Adam Wolf
>> Cofounder and Engineer,
>> W&L
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 2014-12-23 22:03 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> > I think Lorenzo made that image.  I am not sure if it is the logo we
>>> want to
>>> > go with, but I found the SVG inside of bitmaps_png/source or something
>>> and
>>> > dragged it into Inkscape.
>>>
>>> Aha! I did not notive that. But the reason the logo you have looks odd
>>> is becuase you don't have the "original" font, which is Tiresias
>>> LPfont. I can be found on http://www.tiresias.org/fonts/lpfont.zip if
>>> it is of interest. Seems to be a GPL font, I did not really read the
>>> copying note. Also note that curl and wget fails on that URL,
>>> downloading with a browser works fine.
>>>
>>> > I definitely think we need to change the arrowheads, both in size and
>>> not
>>> > being pure black--they are very harsh.  I also think that we might
>>> want to
>>> > investigate what a nice subtle texture background looks like too.
>>> >
>>> > http://subtlepatterns.com/
>>> >
>>> > I will take a stab at a better set of backgrounds in soon, and also I
>>> will
>>> > make my script use an svg from the source, I think, so that anyone with
>>> > commit access can update the svg and it'll show up in the next day's
>>> > package.
>>> >
>>> > Adam Wolf
>>> > Cofounder and Engineer
>>> > W&L
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> 2014-12-23 21:08 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >> > I do not think I ever got connected with Miguel enough to get a
>>> working
>>> >> > login to the server.  If you have access, I can give you an ssh
>>> public
>>> >> > key
>>> >> > that you can add to a user.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't have login access to the machine itself, just the Jenkins
>>> >> interface.
>>> >>
>>> >> > Also, sneak peek.  (I am not a graphics guy, but I whipped this up
>>> as a
>>> >> > barebones example.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Looks great to me, although I think those arrowheads are massive
>>> >> comared to the arrow line part. And the KiCad logo looks odd to me,
>>> >> compared to:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.kicad-pcb.org/download/attachments/589828/
>>> kicad_logo.png?version=1&modificationDate=1334481453000&api=v2
>>> >>
>>> >> But I am not really sure where the original vectorized version is, I
>>> >> think it was Lorenzo that made it, is that right?
>>> >>
>>> >> > Adam Wolf
>>> >> > Cofounder and Engineer
>>> >> > W&L
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 2014-12-23 19:14 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <
>>> adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >> >> > Hi Nick,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I have a jenkins system here--I can upload my build artifacts to
>>> the
>>> >> >> > Kicad
>>> >> >> > Jenkins though. I would prefer not to make my system be a direct
>>> >> >> > build
>>> >> >> > slave
>>> >> >> > for security reasons.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Ok, this is fair enough.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> But did Miguel ever get around to give you the access to get the
>>> >> >> automated uploads working?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > I was out sick all last week with a 102F fever, but this weekend
>>> I
>>> >> >> > updated
>>> >> >> > my script to build a good Kicad footprints dmg.  I think the last
>>> >> >> > thing
>>> >> >> > left
>>> >> >> > before the next status update is setting KIGITHUB.  I tested it
>>> and
>>> >> >> > it
>>> >> >> > works
>>> >> >> > well, but I need to do it automatically.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Ok, get well soon. Good to hear you are still progressing.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Adam Wolf
>>> >> >> > Cofounder and Engineer
>>> >> >> > W&L
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Nick Østergaard <
>>> oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Hello Adam
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I see that your builds is not added to the Jenkins running on
>>> >> >> >> ci.kicad-pcb.org. I want to see that happen, and Miguel gave me
>>> >> >> >> rights
>>> >> >> >> on Jenkins some time ago.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> So if you are ready to set this up, it should be straight
>>> forward to
>>> >> >> >> add a slave node (your OSX machine). All it takes is jave on the
>>> >> >> >> slave, and a SSH connection. Jenkins copies a jar to the slave
>>> where
>>> >> >> >> jenkins operate from.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> It can be used with a username and password, or via SSH keys. I
>>> >> >> >> tried
>>> >> >> >> both with the fedora20 connection. Seems to work nicely.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Basically what is needed for the SSH key method, that is a
>>> private
>>> >> >> >> key
>>> >> >> >> on the master and the public key in the authorized_keys file on
>>> the
>>> >> >> >> relevant user on the slave. I guess it is best to have a
>>> dedicated
>>> >> >> >> user on the box for the kicad build, just for seperation of
>>> access
>>> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> the filesystem.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> The jenkins job is just invoking commands on the shell, so if
>>> you
>>> >> >> >> already have a script to do the work, I can just call that from
>>> >> >> >> jenkins, and you can easily maintain it. I think.  Maybe some
>>> >> >> >> catches
>>> >> >> >> for errors is needed for proper buildfailure detection.
>>> Otherwise I
>>> >> >> >> guess I can give you rights on the master.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Regards
>>> >> >> >> Nick Østergaard
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> 2014-10-30 15:01 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
>>> >> >> >> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >> >> >> > Hi folks,
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Things are progressing very well on the OS X packaging front!
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Every time bzr is updated for lp:kicad, a Mac build is
>>> generated,
>>> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> > every
>>> >> >> >> > night, a clean build is generated and packaged as a dmg.
>>> Miguel
>>> >> >> >> > is
>>> >> >> >> > working
>>> >> >> >> > on fixing my SSH credentials on the server, so I can push the
>>> >> >> >> > build
>>> >> >> >> > logs
>>> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> > dmgs.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I've done my best to script a dmg creator that matches what
>>> >> >> >> > end-users
>>> >> >> >> > expect
>>> >> >> >> > from downloaded Mac applications.  I think it is very good at
>>> this
>>> >> >> >> > point.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > You can see an image of what it looks like inside one of these
>>> >> >> >> > dmgs,
>>> >> >> >> > attached to this email.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > The build log is included with every package, and also will be
>>> >> >> >> > uploaded
>>> >> >> >> > next
>>> >> >> >> > to every package, so that you don't have to download the
>>> entire
>>> >> >> >> > package
>>> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> >> > see a build log.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > The package is currently around 200 megs.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > The README is dynamically generated at package time.  A
>>> sample one
>>> >> >> >> > follows.
>>> >> >> >> > Please let me know if you have any additions or suggestions:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > KiCad
>>> >> >> >> > =====
>>> >> >> >> > KiCad is an EDA software suite for the creation of
>>> professional
>>> >> >> >> > schematics
>>> >> >> >> > and printed circuit boards up to 32 copper layers. KiCad runs
>>> on
>>> >> >> >> > Windows,
>>> >> >> >> > Linux and OS X and is released under the open-source GNU GPL
>>> v2
>>> >> >> >> > free
>>> >> >> >> > of
>>> >> >> >> > charge.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > With KiCad you can create schematic diagrams and printed
>>> circuit
>>> >> >> >> > board
>>> >> >> >> > up to
>>> >> >> >> > 32 copper layers. KiCad comes with a rich set of libraries
>>> with 3D
>>> >> >> >> > models as
>>> >> >> >> > well.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > KiCad is a mature EDA software tool under active development
>>> by a
>>> >> >> >> > team
>>> >> >> >> > of
>>> >> >> >> > developers and a vibrant user group. KiCad team counts three
>>> main
>>> >> >> >> > developers
>>> >> >> >> > and a dozen of regular contributors.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Documentation
>>> >> >> >> > =============
>>> >> >> >> > Documentation is available in this disk image under docs/,
>>> and is
>>> >> >> >> > available
>>> >> >> >> > online at http://www.kicad-pcb.org/.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Changelog
>>> >> >> >> > =========
>>> >> >> >> > You can browse the changelog at
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/
>>> kicad/product/changes.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Reporting Issues
>>> >> >> >> > ================
>>> >> >> >> > The KiCad developers are working hard to provide quality,
>>> binary
>>> >> >> >> > releases to
>>> >> >> >> > our users.  As of September 2014, the OS X package is under
>>> heavy,
>>> >> >> >> > active
>>> >> >> >> > development.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > If you encounter issues with this software, please report a
>>> bug at
>>> >> >> >> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > To help us, please include the details from "About This
>>> Build" in
>>> >> >> >> > this
>>> >> >> >> > file
>>> >> >> >> > or the name of the download file (kicad-r*.dmg).  Please also
>>> >> >> >> > include
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > output from running the following command in the Terminal:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >     sw_vers
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > About This Build
>>> >> >> >> > ================
>>> >> >> >> > KiCad revision: r5237
>>> >> >> >> > Packaged on 20143010-034759
>>> >> >> >> > Packaging script revision: r20
>>> >> >> >> > Build script revision: r20
>>> >> >> >> > CMake Settings: -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=/usr/bin/clang
>>> >> >> >> > -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=/usr/bin/clang++
>>> >> >> >> > -DwxWidgets_CONFIG_EXECUTABLE=../wx-bin/bin/wx-config
>>> >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF
>>> >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF -DKICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF
>>> >> >> >> > -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=../bin -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > QA/Testing:
>>> >> >> >> > At the moment, I have set up another OS X machine running a
>>> >> >> >> > freshly
>>> >> >> >> > installed 10.10.  I haven't installed anything else, and I am
>>> >> >> >> > testing
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > Kicad packages on there, and then once I have tested them, I
>>> am
>>> >> >> >> > reverting
>>> >> >> >> > the system back to the state as it was "freshly installed."
>>> This
>>> >> >> >> > is
>>> >> >> >> > not
>>> >> >> >> > ideal at all, but every day these packages aren't available is
>>> >> >> >> > another
>>> >> >> >> > day I
>>> >> >> >> > spend 20 minutes replying to people asking me where Mac
>>> builds are
>>> >> >> >> > :)
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > What's Left:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > * Automated uploads to the website.  I poked Miguel about this
>>> >> >> >> > recently,
>>> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> > he says he'll try to get to it today.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > * The current Mac build appears to have some dependencies
>>> beyond
>>> >> >> >> > what
>>> >> >> >> > we
>>> >> >> >> > include in the bundle.  For example, on a freshly installed
>>> 10.10
>>> >> >> >> > system
>>> >> >> >> > with this bundle, I cannot open pcbnew.  I verified this
>>> myself.
>>> >> >> >> > A
>>> >> >> >> > tester
>>> >> >> >> > reported to me that he was able to fix it by installing brew,
>>> >> >> >> > libpng,
>>> >> >> >> > libpixman, and libfontconfig.  I have not verified that fix
>>> yet.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > The error is: 06:53:16:
>>> >> >> >> > dlopen(/Volumes/Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface,
>>> >> >> >> > 10): image not found
>>> >> >> >> > 06:53:16: IO_ERROR: Fatal Installation Bug
>>> >> >> >> > missing file:
>>> >> >> >> > '/Volumes/Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface'
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > argv[0]:
>>> >> >> >> > '/Volumes/Kicad/Kicad/pcbnew.app/Contents/MacOS/pcbnew'
>>> >> >> >> > from
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > /Users/jenkins/remoteroot/workspace/KiCadMacBuild/kicad/
>>> common/kiway.cpp
>>> >> >> >> > :
>>> >> >> >> > KiFACE() : line 219
>>> >> >> >> > It appears that it is looking for Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.
>>> kiface
>>> >> >> >> > at
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > wrong place, and I am not sure why installing those libraries
>>> >> >> >> > would
>>> >> >> >> > fix
>>> >> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> >> > problem.  I am going to pull this out into its own email so
>>> >> >> >> > discussion
>>> >> >> >> > of
>>> >> >> >> > this doesn't get merged with other nightly build questions.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > * Including libraries?  Not sure about this one.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > What has been done:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > * We redid our build cluster in a way that we could let in
>>> other
>>> >> >> >> > people,
>>> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> > not see the rest of the Wayne and Layne internal projects.  I
>>> hope
>>> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> >> > get
>>> >> >> >> > some more people in the packaging group, and this was a
>>> crucial
>>> >> >> >> > first
>>> >> >> >> > step.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > * We have an OS X machine for building, and an OS X machine
>>> for
>>> >> >> >> > testing,
>>> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> > can restore it to the "freshly installed" state very easily.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Adam Wolf
>>> >> >> >> > Cofounder and Engineer
>>> >> >> >> >
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>>>
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