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[Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@xxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with you, Adam!
There is a limit to the baby-sitting of users.
It looks fine as is, but a background image with low contrast showing part of a PCB layout would be awesome.

Just my $0.02,
Jean-Paul
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> On Dec 24, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Nick!  This really helps.
> 
> OS X folks:  should I include some text in the background saying "Drag the icons to their destinations" or something like that?  It looks like about half of the ones I found on a quick google search do that.
> 
> I am personally slightly against it, but willing to change my mind. (The first two entries in the README are "Installing" and "Upgrading".)
> 
> Adam Wolf
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014, 10:49 AM Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Den 24/12/2014 16.00 skrev "Adam Wolf" <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> 
> >
> > Maybe the bold font didn't install right.  When I tried to install all three, I got an OS X warning about some font properties.  I will remove the two nonbold  and only install the bold variant.  I am traveling today for the holidays, but I will get a new one up soon.
> 
> 
> Ok, bit strange, I can provide a SVG where the font is converted to paths, such that you don't need to mess with that.
> 
> Find it attached.
> 
> > Any thoughts about the arrows or the rest of it?  I looked at a google image search of "dmg installation background" and tried to make an arrow in proportion to what looked typical.  I added a gradient, but I can easily remove it.  We're working on a subtle circuit board background to add some life to it, but that will be a few dayswith the holidays.
> 
> I think new arrows with the gradient looks great. Som PCB related background would look good.
> 
> > Also, the window size will be made exactly the right size to match the background--I eyed it for this but found a way to make it exact.
> >
> > Adam Wolf
> > Cofounder and Engineer
> > Wayne and Layne
> > Adam Wolf
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014, 3:24 AM Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks much nicer with the arrows.
> >>
> >> The logo is better, but a little nitpicking. The text does not look
> >> quite right according to the image I linked earlier. Are you sure you
> >> did not edit the string properties? To me it looks like it is not bold
> >> any more, that could be the only thing. The orange dot will then align
> >> more properly up with the i, and the Cad part will not touch the blue
> >> box. At least I get an image pretty much like your, when I make it
> >> non-bold.
> >>
> >> 2014-12-24 3:38 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > An update with more appropriate arrows and the correct font! :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.  That first response by me really made me sound grumpy--I wish I
> >> >> could unsend it!
> >> >>
> >> >> I think the drag and drop is good for nightlies, but if we make a package
> >> >> and put it in the App Store, we get around the issues from drag and drop, as
> >> >> long as we follow Apple policy on where to put stufff (which I think we do,
> >> >> thanks to Bernhard and all the other OS X Kicad devs scattered throughout
> >> >> time and space).
> >> >>
> >> >> I expect there will be discussion and certainly some  modification s after
> >> >> the next progress update, but then I am going to ask Wayne what he wants me
> >> >> to work on next for packaging -- Windows, some Linux, or pursue getting
> >> >> Kicad into the Mac App Store (for free of course) so Mac folks can install
> >> >> the upcoming "stable" versions through the App Store.
> >> >>
> >> >> Adam Wolf
> >> >> Cofounder and Engineer
> >> >> W&L
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 4:11 PM Martijn Kuipers <martijn.kuipers@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Adam, and others,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I myself several years ago tried a OS X package and know the pain it
> >> >>> gives. I think the Drag & Drop you have is fine.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you want to do more interesting things, then I would like to suggest a
> >> >>> program called Packages
> >> >>> (http://s.sudre.free.fr/Software/Packages/about.html).
> >> >>> It should even allow to add multiple bundles and have the user choose
> >> >>> what to install.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Although I am not sure how to incorporate that into a cake-build, but I
> >> >>> guess we have some of the most knowledgeable cmake-builders (people) on
> >> >>> board.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Adam, please do not take this as a complaint. I think the work you have
> >> >>> done for OS X users is excellent. I just happen to stumble upon this and
> >> >>> think it might be of help, alleviating some of your pains ;-)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Anyway, to you and the entire KiCad list: A Merry Christmas and thanks
> >> >>> for KiCad.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> /Martijn
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 23 Dec 2014, at 21:27, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks!  Great eye!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Adam Wolf
> >> >>> Cofounder and Engineer,
> >> >>> W&L
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2014-12-23 22:03 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> >>>> > I think Lorenzo made that image.  I am not sure if it is the logo we
> >> >>>> > want to
> >> >>>> > go with, but I found the SVG inside of bitmaps_png/source or something
> >> >>>> > and
> >> >>>> > dragged it into Inkscape.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Aha! I did not notive that. But the reason the logo you have looks odd
> >> >>>> is becuase you don't have the "original" font, which is Tiresias
> >> >>>> LPfont. I can be found on http://www.tiresias.org/fonts/lpfont.zip if
> >> >>>> it is of interest. Seems to be a GPL font, I did not really read the
> >> >>>> copying note. Also note that curl and wget fails on that URL,
> >> >>>> downloading with a browser works fine.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > I definitely think we need to change the arrowheads, both in size and
> >> >>>> > not
> >> >>>> > being pure black--they are very harsh.  I also think that we might
> >> >>>> > want to
> >> >>>> > investigate what a nice subtle texture background looks like too.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > http://subtlepatterns.com/
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > I will take a stab at a better set of backgrounds in soon, and also I
> >> >>>> > will
> >> >>>> > make my script use an svg from the source, I think, so that anyone
> >> >>>> > with
> >> >>>> > commit access can update the svg and it'll show up in the next day's
> >> >>>> > package.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Adam Wolf
> >> >>>> > Cofounder and Engineer
> >> >>>> > W&L
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> 2014-12-23 21:08 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> >>>> >> > I do not think I ever got connected with Miguel enough to get a
> >> >>>> >> > working
> >> >>>> >> > login to the server.  If you have access, I can give you an ssh
> >> >>>> >> > public
> >> >>>> >> > key
> >> >>>> >> > that you can add to a user.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> I don't have login access to the machine itself, just the Jenkins
> >> >>>> >> interface.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> > Also, sneak peek.  (I am not a graphics guy, but I whipped this up
> >> >>>> >> > as a
> >> >>>> >> > barebones example.)
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Looks great to me, although I think those arrowheads are massive
> >> >>>> >> comared to the arrow line part. And the KiCad logo looks odd to me,
> >> >>>> >> compared to:
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> http://www.kicad-pcb.org/download/attachments/589828/kicad_logo.png?version=1&modificationDate=1334481453000&api=v2
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> But I am not really sure where the original vectorized version is, I
> >> >>>> >> think it was Lorenzo that made it, is that right?
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> > Adam Wolf
> >> >>>> >> > Cofounder and Engineer
> >> >>>> >> > W&L
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Nick Østergaard
> >> >>>> >> > <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> >> > wrote:
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> 2014-12-23 19:14 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
> >> >>>> >> >> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> >>>> >> >> > Hi Nick,
> >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> > I have a jenkins system here--I can upload my build artifacts to
> >> >>>> >> >> > the
> >> >>>> >> >> > Kicad
> >> >>>> >> >> > Jenkins though. I would prefer not to make my system be a direct
> >> >>>> >> >> > build
> >> >>>> >> >> > slave
> >> >>>> >> >> > for security reasons.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Ok, this is fair enough.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> But did Miguel ever get around to give you the access to get the
> >> >>>> >> >> automated uploads working?
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> > I was out sick all last week with a 102F fever, but this weekend
> >> >>>> >> >> > I
> >> >>>> >> >> > updated
> >> >>>> >> >> > my script to build a good Kicad footprints dmg.  I think the
> >> >>>> >> >> > last
> >> >>>> >> >> > thing
> >> >>>> >> >> > left
> >> >>>> >> >> > before the next status update is setting KIGITHUB.  I tested it
> >> >>>> >> >> > and
> >> >>>> >> >> > it
> >> >>>> >> >> > works
> >> >>>> >> >> > well, but I need to do it automatically.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Ok, get well soon. Good to hear you are still progressing.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> > Adam Wolf
> >> >>>> >> >> > Cofounder and Engineer
> >> >>>> >> >> > W&L
> >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Nick Østergaard
> >> >>>> >> >> > <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>>> >> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> >> Hello Adam
> >> >>>> >> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> >> I see that your builds is not added to the Jenkins running on
> >> >>>> >> >> >> ci.kicad-pcb.org. I want to see that happen, and Miguel gave me
> >> >>>> >> >> >> rights
> >> >>>> >> >> >> on Jenkins some time ago.
> >> >>>> >> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> >> So if you are ready to set this up, it should be straight
> >> >>>> >> >> >> forward to
> >> >>>> >> >> >> add a slave node (your OSX machine). All it takes is jave on
> >> >>>> >> >> >> the
> >> >>>> >> >> >> slave, and a SSH connection. Jenkins copies a jar to the slave
> >> >>>> >> >> >> where
> >> >>>> >> >> >> jenkins operate from.
> >> >>>> >> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> >> It can be used with a username and password, or via SSH keys. I
> >> >>>> >> >> >> tried
> >> >>>> >> >> >> both with the fedora20 connection. Seems to work nicely.
> >> >>>> >> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> >> Basically what is needed for the SSH key method, that is a
> >> >>>> >> >> >> private
> >> >>>> >> >> >> key
> >> >>>> >> >> >> on the master and the public key in the authorized_keys file on
> >> >>>> >> >> >> the
> >> >>>> >> >> >> relevant user on the slave. I guess it is best to have a
> >> >>>> >> >> >> dedicated
> >> >>>> >> >> >> user on the box for the kicad build, just for seperation of
> >> >>>> >> >> >> access
> >> >>>> >> >> >> to
> >> >>>> >> >> >> the filesystem.
> >> >>>> >> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> >> The jenkins job is just invoking commands on the shell, so if
> >> >>>> >> >> >> you
> >> >>>> >> >> >> already have a script to do the work, I can just call that from
> >> >>>> >> >> >> jenkins, and you can easily maintain it. I think.  Maybe some
> >> >>>> >> >> >> catches
> >> >>>> >> >> >> for errors is needed for proper buildfailure detection.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> Otherwise I
> >> >>>> >> >> >> guess I can give you rights on the master.
> >> >>>> >> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> >> Regards
> >> >>>> >> >> >> Nick Østergaard
> >> >>>> >> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> >> 2014-10-30 15:01 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
> >> >>>> >> >> >> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Hi folks,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Things are progressing very well on the OS X packaging front!
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Every time bzr is updated for lp:kicad, a Mac build is
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > generated,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > and
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > every
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > night, a clean build is generated and packaged as a dmg.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Miguel
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > is
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > working
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > on fixing my SSH credentials on the server, so I can push the
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > build
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > logs
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > and
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > dmgs.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > I've done my best to script a dmg creator that matches what
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > end-users
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > expect
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > from downloaded Mac applications.  I think it is very good at
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > this
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > point.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > You can see an image of what it looks like inside one of
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > these
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > dmgs,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > attached to this email.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > The build log is included with every package, and also will
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > be
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > uploaded
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > next
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > to every package, so that you don't have to download the
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > entire
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > package
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > to
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > see a build log.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > The package is currently around 200 megs.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > The README is dynamically generated at package time.  A
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > sample one
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > follows.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Please let me know if you have any additions or suggestions:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiCad
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > =====
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiCad is an EDA software suite for the creation of
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > professional
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > schematics
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > and printed circuit boards up to 32 copper layers. KiCad runs
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > on
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Windows,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Linux and OS X and is released under the open-source GNU GPL
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > v2
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > free
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > of
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > charge.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > With KiCad you can create schematic diagrams and printed
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > circuit
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > board
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > up to
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > 32 copper layers. KiCad comes with a rich set of libraries
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > with 3D
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > models as
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > well.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiCad is a mature EDA software tool under active development
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > by a
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > team
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > of
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > developers and a vibrant user group. KiCad team counts three
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > main
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > developers
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > and a dozen of regular contributors.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Documentation
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > =============
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Documentation is available in this disk image under docs/,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > and is
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > available
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > online at http://www.kicad-pcb.org/.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Changelog
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > =========
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > You can browse the changelog at
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/changes.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Reporting Issues
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > ================
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > The KiCad developers are working hard to provide quality,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > binary
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > releases to
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > our users.  As of September 2014, the OS X package is under
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > heavy,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > active
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > development.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > If you encounter issues with this software, please report a
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > bug at
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > To help us, please include the details from "About This
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Build" in
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > this
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > file
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > or the name of the download file (kicad-r*.dmg).  Please also
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > include
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > the
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > output from running the following command in the Terminal:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >     sw_vers
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > About This Build
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > ================
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiCad revision: r5237
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Packaged on 20143010-034759
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Packaging script revision: r20
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Build script revision: r20
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > CMake Settings: -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=/usr/bin/clang
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=/usr/bin/clang++
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DwxWidgets_CONFIG_EXECUTABLE=../wx-bin/bin/wx-config
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF -DKICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=../bin -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > QA/Testing:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > At the moment, I have set up another OS X machine running a
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > freshly
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > installed 10.10.  I haven't installed anything else, and I am
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > testing
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > the
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Kicad packages on there, and then once I have tested them, I
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > am
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > reverting
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > the system back to the state as it was "freshly installed."
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > This
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > is
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > not
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > ideal at all, but every day these packages aren't available
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > is
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > another
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > day I
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > spend 20 minutes replying to people asking me where Mac
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > builds are
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > :)
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > What's Left:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > * Automated uploads to the website.  I poked Miguel about
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > this
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > recently,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > and
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > he says he'll try to get to it today.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > * The current Mac build appears to have some dependencies
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > beyond
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > what
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > we
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > include in the bundle.  For example, on a freshly installed
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > 10.10
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > system
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > with this bundle, I cannot open pcbnew.  I verified this
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > myself.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > A
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > tester
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > reported to me that he was able to fix it by installing brew,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > libpng,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > libpixman, and libfontconfig.  I have not verified that fix
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > yet.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > The error is: 06:53:16:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > dlopen(/Volumes/Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > 10): image not found
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > 06:53:16: IO_ERROR: Fatal Installation Bug
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > missing file:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > '/Volumes/Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface'
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > argv[0]:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > '/Volumes/Kicad/Kicad/pcbnew.app/Contents/MacOS/pcbnew'
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > from
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > /Users/jenkins/remoteroot/workspace/KiCadMacBuild/kicad/common/kiway.cpp
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > :
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiFACE() : line 219
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > It appears that it is looking for
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > at
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > the
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > wrong place, and I am not sure why installing those libraries
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > would
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > fix
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > that
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > problem.  I am going to pull this out into its own email so
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > discussion
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > of
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > this doesn't get merged with other nightly build questions.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > * Including libraries?  Not sure about this one.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > What has been done:
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > * We redid our build cluster in a way that we could let in
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > other
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > people,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > and
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > not see the rest of the Wayne and Layne internal projects.  I
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > hope
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > to
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > get
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > some more people in the packaging group, and this was a
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > crucial
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > first
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > step.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > * We have an OS X machine for building, and an OS X machine
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > for
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > testing,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > and
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > can restore it to the "freshly installed" state very easily.
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Adam Wolf
> >> >>>> >> >> >> > Cofounder and Engineer
> >> >>>> >> >> >> >
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> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>
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