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Re: OS X Packaging Update

 

On 1/6/2015 1:31 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> No problem.  I hope you enjoyed your break--I definitely enjoyed mine!

Good to hear you enjoyed your break.  I enjoyed mine as well.  My son
was home from college.  It was nice to have the whole family together.

> 
> I'm going to stick with the OS X nightlies, and get them actually
> uploading nightly.  I realized I do not have Python scripting enabled
> with those, so that'll be the next thing, but I think between Bernhard
> and the person who emailed the list on Sunday, we should be pretty good
> there.

Makes sense to get the OSX stuff sorted out before moving to another
platform.

> 
> I think Windows is in a better place than OS X was a year ago, but I
> think it would be good if we had official builds somewhere.  I do not
> quite understand what msys2 is, so I'll wade in and see how it all fits
> together.

It's very simple compared to the old msys/mingw way of doing things.
All of the major runtime dependencies including wxpython are already
provided and are very up to date.  It uses a customized version of
pacman from Arch Linux for package management.  Feel free to contact me
if you have any issues.

> 
> Thanks for everything, and enjoy your upcoming trip to Brussels.

Thanks.  I'm looking forward to it.  The last time I was in Europe was
about 10 years ago and it will be my first time in Belgium.

> 
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> W&L
> 
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hey Adam,
> 
>     Sorry for the late reply.  I'm finally getting caught up from my lazy
>     holiday break.  I though our current Linux (at least Ubuntu and other
>     Debian based distros) situation was pretty good.  I would like to see
>     more up to date Windows nightly builds if at all possible.  You might
>     want to get in touch with the person who runs the site
>     http://kicad.nosoftware.cz/.  I don't know that we need full installers
>     as they are rather large.  Maybe we could provide updated binaries in an
>     archive format that could be installed over top of an existing setup.
>     The other option is to us the msys2 environment to build 32 and 64 bit
>     pacman mingw packages.  This should be very straight forward now that I
>     have the full package build defined.  If you need the msys2 build
>     instructions, please let me know and I will write up a quick cheat
>     sheet.  One of these days, I will add the msys2 build instructions to
>     the developer documentation.  Thanks for all of your hard work on the
>     OSX nightly builds.
> 
>     Cheers,
> 
>     Wayne
> 
> 
>     On 12/23/2014 5:17 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>     > Thanks.  That first response by me really made me sound grumpy--I wish I
>     > could unsend it!
>     >
>     > I think the drag and drop is good for nightlies, but if we make a
>     > package and put it in the App Store, we get around the issues from drag
>     > and drop, as long as we follow Apple policy on where to put stufff
>     > (which I think we do, thanks to Bernhard and all the other OS X Kicad
>     > devs scattered throughout time and space).
>     >
>     > I expect there will be discussion and certainly some  modification s
>     > after the next progress update, but then I am going to ask Wayne what he
>     > wants me to work on next for packaging -- Windows, some Linux, or pursue
>     > getting Kicad into the Mac App Store (for free of course) so Mac folks
>     > can install the upcoming "stable" versions through the App Store.
>     >
>     > Adam Wolf
>     > Cofounder and Engineer
>     > W&L
>     >
>     >
>     > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 4:11 PM Martijn Kuipers <martijn.kuipers@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:martijn.kuipers@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:martijn.kuipers@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:martijn.kuipers@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi Adam, and others,
>     >
>     >     I myself several years ago tried a OS X package and know the pain it
>     >     gives. I think the Drag & Drop you have is fine.
>     >
>     >     If you want to do more interesting things, then I would like to
>     >     suggest a program called Packages
>     >     (http://s.sudre.free.fr/Software/Packages/about.html).
>     >     It should even allow to add multiple bundles and have the user
>     >     choose what to install.
>     >
>     >     Although I am not sure how to incorporate that into a cake-build,
>     >     but I guess we have some of the most knowledgeable cmake-builders
>     >     (people) on board.
>     >
>     >     Adam, please do not take this as a complaint. I think the work you
>     >     have done for OS X users is excellent. I just happen to stumble upon
>     7>     this and think it might be of help, alleviating some of your
>     pains ;-)
>     >
>     >     Anyway, to you and the entire KiCad list: A Merry Christmas and
>     >     thanks for KiCad.
>     >
>     >     /Martijn
>     >
>     >
>     >>     On 23 Dec 2014, at 21:27, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     Thanks!  Great eye!
>     >>
>     >>     Adam Wolf
>     >>     Cofounder and Engineer,
>     >>     W&L
>     >>
>     >>     On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Nick Østergaard
>     >>     <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>         2014-12-23 22:03 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
>     >>         <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >>         <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
>     >>         > I think Lorenzo made that image.  I am not sure if it
>     is the logo we want to
>     >>         > go with, but I found the SVG inside of
>     bitmaps_png/source or something and
>     >>         > dragged it into Inkscape.
>     >>
>     >>         Aha! I did not notive that. But the reason the logo you have
>     >>         looks odd
>     >>         is becuase you don't have the "original" font, which is
>     Tiresias
>     >>         LPfont. I can be found on
>     >>         http://www.tiresias.org/fonts/lpfont.zip if
>     >>         it is of interest. Seems to be a GPL font, I did not really
>     >>         read the
>     >>         copying note. Also note that curl and wget fails on that URL,
>     >>         downloading with a browser works fine.
>     >>
>     >>         > I definitely think we need to change the arrowheads,
>     both in
>     >>         size and not
>     >>         > being pure black--they are very harsh.  I also think
>     that we
>     >>         might want to
>     >>         > investigate what a nice subtle texture background looks
>     like
>     >>         too.
>     >>         >
>     >>         > http://subtlepatterns.com/
>     >>         >
>     >>         > I will take a stab at a better set of backgrounds in soon,
>     >>         and also I will
>     >>         > make my script use an svg from the source, I think, so that
>     >>         anyone with
>     >>         > commit access can update the svg and it'll show up in the
>     >>         next day's
>     >>         > package.
>     >>         >
>     >>         > Adam Wolf
>     >>         > Cofounder and Engineer
>     >>         > W&L
>     >>         >
>     >>         > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Nick Østergaard
>     >>         <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >>         >>
>     >>         >> 2014-12-23 21:08 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
>     >>         <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >>         <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
>     >>         >> > I do not think I ever got connected with Miguel
>     enough to
>     >>         get a working
>     >>         >> > login to the server.  If you have access, I can give you
>     >>         an ssh public
>     >>         >> > key
>     >>         >> > that you can add to a user.
>     >>         >>
>     >>         >> I don't have login access to the machine itself, just the
>     >>         Jenkins
>     >>         >> interface.
>     >>         >>
>     >>         >> > Also, sneak peek.  (I am not a graphics guy, but I
>     >>         whipped this up as a
>     >>         >> > barebones example.)
>     >>         >>
>     >>         >> Looks great to me, although I think those arrowheads are
>     >>         massive
>     >>         >> comared to the arrow line part. And the KiCad logo looks
>     >>         odd to me,
>     >>         >> compared to:
>     >>         >>
>     >>         >>
>     >>       
>      http://www.kicad-pcb.org/download/attachments/589828/kicad_logo.png?version=1&modificationDate=1334481453000&api=v2
>     >>         >>
>     >>         >> But I am not really sure where the original vectorized
>     >>         version is, I
>     >>         >> think it was Lorenzo that made it, is that right?
>     >>         >>
>     >>         >> > Adam Wolf
>     >>         >> > Cofounder and Engineer
>     >>         >> > W&L
>     >>         >> >
>     >>         >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Nick Østergaard
>     >>         <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>     >>         >> > wrote:
>     >>         >> >>
>     >>         >> >> 2014-12-23 19:14 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
>     >>         <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >>         <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
>     >>         >> >> > Hi Nick,
>     >>         >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> > I have a jenkins system here--I can upload my build
>     >>         artifacts to the
>     >>         >> >> > Kicad
>     >>         >> >> > Jenkins though. I would prefer not to make my system
>     >>         be a direct
>     >>         >> >> > build
>     >>         >> >> > slave
>     >>         >> >> > for security reasons.
>     >>         >> >>
>     >>         >> >> Ok, this is fair enough.
>     >>         >> >>
>     >>         >> >> But did Miguel ever get around to give you the
>     access to
>     >>         get the
>     >>         >> >> automated uploads working?
>     >>         >> >>
>     >>         >> >> > I was out sick all last week with a 102F fever, but
>     >>         this weekend I
>     >>         >> >> > updated
>     >>         >> >> > my script to build a good Kicad footprints dmg.  I
>     >>         think the last
>     >>         >> >> > thing
>     >>         >> >> > left
>     >>         >> >> > before the next status update is setting KIGITHUB.  I
>     >>         tested it and
>     >>         >> >> > it
>     >>         >> >> > works
>     >>         >> >> > well, but I need to do it automatically.
>     >>         >> >>
>     >>         >> >> Ok, get well soon. Good to hear you are still
>     progressing.
>     >>         >> >>
>     >>         >> >> > Adam Wolf
>     >>         >> >> > Cofounder and Engineer
>     >>         >> >> > W&L
>     >>         >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Nick Østergaard
>     >>         <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>     >>         >> >> > wrote:
>     >>         >> >> >>
>     >>         >> >> >> Hello Adam
>     >>         >> >> >>
>     >>         >> >> >> I see that your builds is not added to the Jenkins
>     >>         running on
>     >>         >> >> >> ci.kicad-pcb.org <http://ci.kicad-pcb.org>
>     <http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/>. I want
>     >>         to see that happen, and Miguel gave me
>     >>         >> >> >> rights
>     >>         >> >> >> on Jenkins some time ago.
>     >>         >> >> >>
>     >>         >> >> >> So if you are ready to set this up, it should be
>     >>         straight forward to
>     >>         >> >> >> add a slave node (your OSX machine). All it takes is
>     >>         jave on the
>     >>         >> >> >> slave, and a SSH connection. Jenkins copies a jar to
>     >>         the slave where
>     >>         >> >> >> jenkins operate from.
>     >>         >> >> >>
>     >>         >> >> >> It can be used with a username and password, or via
>     >>         SSH keys. I
>     >>         >> >> >> tried
>     >>         >> >> >> both with the fedora20 connection. Seems to work
>     nicely.
>     >>         >> >> >>
>     >>         >> >> >> Basically what is needed for the SSH key method,
>     that
>     >>         is a private
>     >>         >> >> >> key
>     >>         >> >> >> on the master and the public key in the
>     >>         authorized_keys file on the
>     >>         >> >> >> relevant user on the slave. I guess it is best to
>     >>         have a dedicated
>     >>         >> >> >> user on the box for the kicad build, just for
>     >>         seperation of access
>     >>         >> >> >> to
>     >>         >> >> >> the filesystem.
>     >>         >> >> >>
>     >>         >> >> >> The jenkins job is just invoking commands on the
>     >>         shell, so if you
>     >>         >> >> >> already have a script to do the work, I can just
>     call
>     >>         that from
>     >>         >> >> >> jenkins, and you can easily maintain it. I think.
>     >>         Maybe some
>     >>         >> >> >> catches
>     >>         >> >> >> for errors is needed for proper buildfailure
>     >>         detection. Otherwise I
>     >>         >> >> >> guess I can give you rights on the master.
>     >>         >> >> >>
>     >>         >> >> >> Regards
>     >>         >> >> >> Nick Østergaard
>     >>         >> >> >>
>     >>         >> >> >> 2014-10-30 15:01 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
>     >>         >> >> >> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >>         <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
>     >>         >> >> >> > Hi folks,
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > Things are progressing very well on the OS X
>     >>         packaging front!
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > Every time bzr is updated for lp:kicad, a Mac
>     build
>     >>         is generated,
>     >>         >> >> >> > and
>     >>         >> >> >> > every
>     >>         >> >> >> > night, a clean build is generated and packaged
>     as a
>     >>         dmg.  Miguel
>     >>         >> >> >> > is
>     >>         >> >> >> > working
>     >>         >> >> >> > on fixing my SSH credentials on the server, so I
>     >>         can push the
>     >>         >> >> >> > build
>     >>         >> >> >> > logs
>     >>         >> >> >> > and
>     >>         >> >> >> > dmgs.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > I've done my best to script a dmg creator that
>     >>         matches what
>     >>         >> >> >> > end-users
>     >>         >> >> >> > expect
>     >>         >> >> >> > from downloaded Mac applications.  I think it is
>     >>         very good at this
>     >>         >> >> >> > point.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > You can see an image of what it looks like inside
>     >>         one of these
>     >>         >> >> >> > dmgs,
>     >>         >> >> >> > attached to this email.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > The build log is included with every package, and
>     >>         also will be
>     >>         >> >> >> > uploaded
>     >>         >> >> >> > next
>     >>         >> >> >> > to every package, so that you don't have to
>     >>         download the entire
>     >>         >> >> >> > package
>     >>         >> >> >> > to
>     >>         >> >> >> > see a build log.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > The package is currently around 200 megs.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > The README is dynamically generated at package
>     >>         time.  A sample one
>     >>         >> >> >> > follows.
>     >>         >> >> >> > Please let me know if you have any additions or
>     >>         suggestions:
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > KiCad
>     >>         >> >> >> > =====
>     >>         >> >> >> > KiCad is an EDA software suite for the creation of
>     >>         professional
>     >>         >> >> >> > schematics
>     >>         >> >> >> > and printed circuit boards up to 32 copper layers.
>     >>         KiCad runs on
>     >>         >> >> >> > Windows,
>     >>         >> >> >> > Linux and OS X and is released under the
>     >>         open-source GNU GPL v2
>     >>         >> >> >> > free
>     >>         >> >> >> > of
>     >>         >> >> >> > charge.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > With KiCad you can create schematic diagrams and
>     >>         printed circuit
>     >>         >> >> >> > board
>     >>         >> >> >> > up to
>     >>         >> >> >> > 32 copper layers. KiCad comes with a rich set of
>     >>         libraries with 3D
>     >>         >> >> >> > models as
>     >>         >> >> >> > well.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > KiCad is a mature EDA software tool under active
>     >>         development by a
>     >>         >> >> >> > team
>     >>         >> >> >> > of
>     >>         >> >> >> > developers and a vibrant user group. KiCad team
>     >>         counts three main
>     >>         >> >> >> > developers
>     >>         >> >> >> > and a dozen of regular contributors.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > Documentation
>     >>         >> >> >> > =============
>     >>         >> >> >> > Documentation is available in this disk image
>     under
>     >>         docs/, and is
>     >>         >> >> >> > available
>     >>         >> >> >> > online at http://www.kicad-pcb.org/.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > Changelog
>     >>         >> >> >> > =========
>     >>         >> >> >> > You can browse the changelog at
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>       
>      https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/changes.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > Reporting Issues
>     >>         >> >> >> > ================
>     >>         >> >> >> > The KiCad developers are working hard to provide
>     >>         quality, binary
>     >>         >> >> >> > releases to
>     >>         >> >> >> > our users.  As of September 2014, the OS X package
>     >>         is under heavy,
>     >>         >> >> >> > active
>     >>         >> >> >> > development.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > If you encounter issues with this software, please
>     >>         report a bug at
>     >>         >> >> >> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > To help us, please include the details from "About
>     >>         This Build" in
>     >>         >> >> >> > this
>     >>         >> >> >> > file
>     >>         >> >> >> > or the name of the download file (kicad-r*.dmg).
>     >>         Please also
>     >>         >> >> >> > include
>     >>         >> >> >> > the
>     >>         >> >> >> > output from running the following command in the
>     >>         Terminal:
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> >     sw_vers
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > About This Build
>     >>         >> >> >> > ================
>     >>         >> >> >> > KiCad revision: r5237
>     >>         >> >> >> > Packaged on 20143010-034759
>     >>         >> >> >> > Packaging script revision: r20
>     >>         >> >> >> > Build script revision: r20
>     >>         >> >> >> > CMake Settings: -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=/usr/bin/clang
>     >>         >> >> >> > -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=/usr/bin/clang++
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     -DwxWidgets_CONFIG_EXECUTABLE=../wx-bin/bin/wx-config
>     >>         >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF
>     >>         >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF
>     >>         -DKICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF
>     >>         >> >> >> > -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=../bin
>     >>         -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > QA/Testing:
>     >>         >> >> >> > At the moment, I have set up another OS X machine
>     >>         running a
>     >>         >> >> >> > freshly
>     >>         >> >> >> > installed 10.10.  I haven't installed anything
>     >>         else, and I am
>     >>         >> >> >> > testing
>     >>         >> >> >> > the
>     >>         >> >> >> > Kicad packages on there, and then once I have
>     >>         tested them, I am
>     >>         >> >> >> > reverting
>     >>         >> >> >> > the system back to the state as it was "freshly
>     >>         installed."  This
>     >>         >> >> >> > is
>     >>         >> >> >> > not
>     >>         >> >> >> > ideal at all, but every day these packages aren't
>     >>         available is
>     >>         >> >> >> > another
>     >>         >> >> >> > day I
>     >>         >> >> >> > spend 20 minutes replying to people asking me
>     where
>     >>         Mac builds are
>     >>         >> >> >> > :)
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > What's Left:
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > * Automated uploads to the website.  I poked
>     Miguel
>     >>         about this
>     >>         >> >> >> > recently,
>     >>         >> >> >> > and
>     >>         >> >> >> > he says he'll try to get to it today.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > * The current Mac build appears to have some
>     >>         dependencies beyond
>     >>         >> >> >> > what
>     >>         >> >> >> > we
>     >>         >> >> >> > include in the bundle.  For example, on a freshly
>     >>         installed 10.10
>     >>         >> >> >> > system
>     >>         >> >> >> > with this bundle, I cannot open pcbnew.  I
>     verified
>     >>         this myself.
>     >>         >> >> >> > A
>     >>         >> >> >> > tester
>     >>         >> >> >> > reported to me that he was able to fix it by
>     >>         installing brew,
>     >>         >> >> >> > libpng,
>     >>         >> >> >> > libpixman, and libfontconfig.  I have not verified
>     >>         that fix yet.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > The error is: 06:53:16:
>     >>         >> >> >> > dlopen(/Volumes/Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface,
>     >>         >> >> >> > 10): image not found
>     >>         >> >> >> > 06:53:16: IO_ERROR: Fatal Installation Bug
>     >>         >> >> >> > missing file:
>     >>         >> >> >> > '/Volumes/Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface'
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > argv[0]:
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     '/Volumes/Kicad/Kicad/pcbnew.app/Contents/MacOS/pcbnew'
>     >>         >> >> >> > from
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>       
>      /Users/jenkins/remoteroot/workspace/KiCadMacBuild/kicad/common/kiway.cpp
>     >>         >> >> >> > :
>     >>         >> >> >> > KiFACE() : line 219
>     >>         >> >> >> > It appears that it is looking for
>     >>         Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface
>     >>         >> >> >> > at
>     >>         >> >> >> > the
>     >>         >> >> >> > wrong place, and I am not sure why installing
>     those
>     >>         libraries
>     >>         >> >> >> > would
>     >>         >> >> >> > fix
>     >>         >> >> >> > that
>     >>         >> >> >> > problem.  I am going to pull this out into its own
>     >>         email so
>     >>         >> >> >> > discussion
>     >>         >> >> >> > of
>     >>         >> >> >> > this doesn't get merged with other nightly build
>     >>         questions.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > * Including libraries?  Not sure about this one.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > What has been done:
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > * We redid our build cluster in a way that we
>     could
>     >>         let in other
>     >>         >> >> >> > people,
>     >>         >> >> >> > and
>     >>         >> >> >> > not see the rest of the Wayne and Layne internal
>     >>         projects.  I hope
>     >>         >> >> >> > to
>     >>         >> >> >> > get
>     >>         >> >> >> > some more people in the packaging group, and this
>     >>         was a crucial
>     >>         >> >> >> > first
>     >>         >> >> >> > step.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > * We have an OS X machine for building, and an
>     OS X
>     >>         machine for
>     >>         >> >> >> > testing,
>     >>         >> >> >> > and
>     >>         >> >> >> > can restore it to the "freshly installed" state
>     >>         very easily.
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > Thanks,
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > Adam Wolf
>     >>         >> >> >> > Cofounder and Engineer
>     >>         >> >> >> >
>     >>         >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>     >>         >> >> >> > Mailing list:
>     https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers
>     >>         >> >> >> > Post to     :
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