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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Maybe.  For KISYSMOD, I am not sure if it is used anywhere in the source.

I do not think your work around would work for KISYS3DMOD, though.
On Jan 8, 2015 7:29 AM, "Miguel Ángel Ajo" <majopela@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Can’t users just change that reference to their own path on their own
> fp-lib-table
> instead of the ENV var reference if they don’t want the system modules?
>
> That would be reasonable enough to me.
>
>
>
> Miguel Ángel Ajo
>
> On Thursday, 8 de January de 2015 at 13:53, Adam Wolf wrote:
>
> I hear what you're saying.
>
> I don't really like the idea of using environment variables to drive the
> behavior of GUI programs, especially in OS X.  They're tricky in OS X, and
> they're hard to explain to a lot of users.
>
> Fixing this through changing the behavior of how KISYSMOD and probably the
> other environment variables work in Kicad is probably a fair bit of work,
> at least a week or two--when you include developer discussion, regression
> testing on other platforms, stuff like that, probably even longer.
>
> I'm not 100% happy about it, but would something like this be an OK
> stopgap measure while we figure out the right thing moving forward?  I am
> fine only putting this patch in my builds.
>
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> Wayne and Layne
> On Jan 8, 2015 6:26 AM, "Bernhard Stegmaier" <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Hi Adam, hi all,
>
> that IMHO could be problematic (depends on what you intend to have).
>
> For a single-user environment this might be OK, but it then forces modules
> to be in a machine specific folder common to all users. In a multi-user
> environment you probably might not want to have that. And, I never read
> somewhere that you can override this setting of the bundle somehow, so this
> could be a once and for all decision (as long as you don't fiddle around
> with the Info.plist) and you wouldn't need an environment variable at all...
> Further, I think I tried once to use "~" or "$HOME" in Info.plist but it
> doesn't expand such variables. So, you obviously can't set the path to
> something in user home with this method.
> Last, I don't know if always any (non-root) user is allowed to write into
> /Library/Application Support/kicad?
>
> In my opinion, the old concept of search paths did fit such hardcoded
> paths much better than it is currently with environment variables. If
> environment variables are too hard to set, then probably a configuration
> setting directly from some "Settings" menu would be better.
>
> My opionion: I wouldn't want to have it that way, but since I am the only
> one using KiCad on my machines I can also live with some links pushing
> things into the spot I want to have it.
>
> This altogether is somewhat inconsistent, because eeschema will *always*
> look in <base>/library with <base> being (in that order):
> * $KICAD
> * ~/Library/Application Support
> * /Library/Application Support
> * <kicad.app>/Contents/SharedSupport
>
> So, if the path should be fixed for pcbnew, I would at least expect
> eeschema to behave the same way (i.e., removing all the other paths and
> also pointing it to the one global
> /Library/Application/Support/kicad/library).
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Bernhard
>
> PS:
>
> I just had a brief look at the Apple docs and did see here
>
>
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/General/Reference/InfoPlistKeyReference/Articles/LaunchServicesKeys.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20001431-106825
>
>
> that obviously the environment set in the Info-plist is only valid when
> launching via an icon, but not via command-line:
> <<<
> These environment variables are set only for apps launched through Launch
> Services. If you run your executable directly from the command line, these
> environment variables are not set.
> >>>
>
> So, another issue that already now with the KIGITHUB variable might lead
> to confusion...
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-01-08 06:52, Adam Wolf wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> As you may know, it's harder than it seems to set an environment variable
> on a bundle in OS X as a user.
>
> I have a patch here for the OS X bundle that sets KISYSMOD to
> /Library/Application Support/kicad/modules
>
> Please let me know if there are any questions or comments.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> W&L
>
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