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Re: fp-lib-tables UI question

 

This is going to be slick, Wayne.  Is there any particular place that seems
decent to put the preconfigured fp-table-libs?  In my mind, they're almost
templates...

Adam Wolf

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> On 1/22/2015 3:56 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> > Do you mean <PREFSDIR>/fp-table-lib? (i.e., on
> > Linux ~/.config/kicad/fp-lib-table?)
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > I really like this idea.  The wizard already does a good job explaining
> > what each type of fp-lib-table entry is.
>
> Then it should be possible to add the code to copy a pre-configured
> fp-lib-table file to the proper path.  The only tricky part would be
> setting up any environment variables.  I have a patch that sets default
> environment variables for KIGITHUB and KISYS3DMOD on start up.  I
> haven't designed the dialog to edit them yet.  It needs tested on OSX so
> I will post it some time tomorrow to get some feed back.  The
> environment variables are saved in the kicad_common config file so you
> could simple add new config entry for something like KISYSMOD from the
> fp-lib-table wizard for footprint libraries stored on the system once I
> commit the code.
>
> >
> > Adam Wolf
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     Maybe you could add an "Initialize Global Table" mode to the
> >     fp-lib-table wizard where a predefined table file is copied to ~/.
> You
> >     could test for ~/fp-lib-table and enter this mode automatically or
> enter
> >     the "Edit Table" mode when ~/fp-lib-table is already defined.  This
> >     would also prevent further cluttering of the library table editor.
> >
> >     On 1/22/2015 10:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >     > The new fp-lib-table wizard is great for adding new entries to the
> >     > current table, but does not appear to have a "load defaults" type
> option.
> >     >
> >     > However, this is based on using it, not reading the code, so it is
> >     > possible the feature is included somewhere I did not see.
> >     >
> >     > Adam Wolf
> >     >
> >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Nick Østergaard <
> oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     > <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     How does this compare to the new fp lib table wizard?
> >     >
> >     >     2015-01-22 6:09 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <
> adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
> >     >     > Hi folks!
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I have a question about adding another feature to the
> >     >     fp-lib-tables manager,
> >     >     > which is already pretty crowded and I want to get buy-in
> >     before even
> >     >     > attempting a patch.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Background:
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Running into another issue with the KiCad Mac experience.
> >     Just to
> >     >     recap, I'm
> >     >     > trying for 2 DMGs.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > One is called "KiCad Extras" and currently includes the
> modules
> >     >     from github,
> >     >     > and the fp-table-lib.for-pretty renamed just fp-table-lib.
> The
> >     >     idea is that
> >     >     > users can download the extras DMG, and no longer need to be
> >     online for
> >     >     > Kicad.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > The modules directory is fine, we provide a "drop target"
> >     (just a
> >     >     symlink)
> >     >     > of /Library/Application Support/kicad/.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > However, the fp-table-lib is tricky.  The per-user "global"
> >     (across
> >     >     > projects" fp-table-lib is located in
> >     ~/Library/Preferences/kicad/
> >     >     We cannot
> >     >     > make a "drop target" in a DMG that points to ~/.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Making a "package" works around this, but users don't like
> >     >     packages unless
> >     >     > they're part of App Store (because they usually don't
> >     realize they're
> >     >     > packages :)).  I don't want to do that.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Question:  Would a way to "load default fp-lib-tables" be
> useful
> >     >     to other
> >     >     > people in the library table manager?  This would take a look
> >     at what
> >     >     > fp-lib-tables.* are available in a location, and give users
> the
> >     >     ability to
> >     >     > replace their fp-lib-tables with known defaults--i.e. I want
> to
> >     >     use github,
> >     >     > I want to use eagle, I want to use on-disk pretties
> >     downloaded from
> >     >     > github...
> >     >     >
> >     >     > The more I think about this, I think that it might not only
> help
> >     >     the Mac
> >     >     > install experience, but actually help the new user
> >     experience on all
> >     >     > platforms.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Thoughts?  (and greetings from Montreal, where I am on
> business
> >     >     and also
> >     >     > working on Kicad Mac nightlies while stuffed with curry
> >     poutine...)
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Adam Wolf
> >     >     > Cofounder and Engineer
> >     >     > W&L
> >     >     >
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