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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

As of right now, the preloaded fp-lib-table files are installed in
${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/share/kicad/template on Linux and Windows.  On
OSX they appear to be installed in
${OSX_BUNDLE_INSTALL_DIR}/${OSX_BUNDLE_SUP_DIR}/template where ever that
works out to be.  The fp-lib-table files themselves are part of the
kicad-library source so hopefully the install path is the same for them
on OSX as well.

On 1/22/2015 4:10 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> This is going to be slick, Wayne.  Is there any particular place that
> seems decent to put the preconfigured fp-table-libs?  In my mind,
> they're almost templates...
> 
> Adam Wolf
> 
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     On 1/22/2015 3:56 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>     > Do you mean <PREFSDIR>/fp-table-lib? (i.e., on
>     > Linux ~/.config/kicad/fp-lib-table?)
> 
>     Yes.
> 
>     >
>     > I really like this idea.  The wizard already does a good job explaining
>     > what each type of fp-lib-table entry is.
> 
>     Then it should be possible to add the code to copy a pre-configured
>     fp-lib-table file to the proper path.  The only tricky part would be
>     setting up any environment variables.  I have a patch that sets default
>     environment variables for KIGITHUB and KISYS3DMOD on start up.  I
>     haven't designed the dialog to edit them yet.  It needs tested on OSX so
>     I will post it some time tomorrow to get some feed back.  The
>     environment variables are saved in the kicad_common config file so you
>     could simple add new config entry for something like KISYSMOD from the
>     fp-lib-table wizard for footprint libraries stored on the system once I
>     commit the code.
> 
>     >
>     > Adam Wolf
>     >
>     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Maybe you could add an "Initialize Global Table" mode to the
>     >     fp-lib-table wizard where a predefined table file is copied to ~/.  You
>     >     could test for ~/fp-lib-table and enter this mode automatically or enter
>     >     the "Edit Table" mode when ~/fp-lib-table is already defined.  This
>     >     would also prevent further cluttering of the library table editor.
>     >
>     >     On 1/22/2015 10:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>     >     > The new fp-lib-table wizard is great for adding new entries to the
>     >     > current table, but does not appear to have a "load defaults" type option.
>     >     >
>     >     > However, this is based on using it, not reading the code, so it is
>     >     > possible the feature is included somewhere I did not see.
>     >     >
>     >     > Adam Wolf
>     >     >
>     >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     >     > <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     How does this compare to the new fp lib table wizard?
>     >     >
>     >     >     2015-01-22 6:09 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>:
>     >     >     > Hi folks!
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > I have a question about adding another feature to the
>     >     >     fp-lib-tables manager,
>     >     >     > which is already pretty crowded and I want to get buy-in
>     >     before even
>     >     >     > attempting a patch.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Background:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Running into another issue with the KiCad Mac experience.
>     >     Just to
>     >     >     recap, I'm
>     >     >     > trying for 2 DMGs.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > One is called "KiCad Extras" and currently includes
>     the modules
>     >     >     from github,
>     >     >     > and the fp-table-lib.for-pretty renamed just
>     fp-table-lib.  The
>     >     >     idea is that
>     >     >     > users can download the extras DMG, and no longer need
>     to be
>     >     online for
>     >     >     > Kicad.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > The modules directory is fine, we provide a "drop target"
>     >     (just a
>     >     >     symlink)
>     >     >     > of /Library/Application Support/kicad/.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > However, the fp-table-lib is tricky.  The per-user
>     "global"
>     >     (across
>     >     >     > projects" fp-table-lib is located in
>     >     ~/Library/Preferences/kicad/
>     >     >     We cannot
>     >     >     > make a "drop target" in a DMG that points to ~/.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Making a "package" works around this, but users don't like
>     >     >     packages unless
>     >     >     > they're part of App Store (because they usually don't
>     >     realize they're
>     >     >     > packages :)).  I don't want to do that.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Question:  Would a way to "load default fp-lib-tables"
>     be useful
>     >     >     to other
>     >     >     > people in the library table manager?  This would take
>     a look
>     >     at what
>     >     >     > fp-lib-tables.* are available in a location, and give
>     users the
>     >     >     ability to
>     >     >     > replace their fp-lib-tables with known defaults--i.e.
>     I want to
>     >     >     use github,
>     >     >     > I want to use eagle, I want to use on-disk pretties
>     >     downloaded from
>     >     >     > github...
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > The more I think about this, I think that it might not
>     only help
>     >     >     the Mac
>     >     >     > install experience, but actually help the new user
>     >     experience on all
>     >     >     > platforms.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Thoughts?  (and greetings from Montreal, where I am on
>     business
>     >     >     and also
>     >     >     > working on Kicad Mac nightlies while stuffed with curry
>     >     poutine...)
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Adam Wolf
>     >     >     > Cofounder and Engineer
>     >     >     > W&L
>     >     >     >
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