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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Great, thanks!
On Jan 22, 2015 4:20 PM, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> As of right now, the preloaded fp-lib-table files are installed in
> ${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/share/kicad/template on Linux and Windows.  On
> OSX they appear to be installed in
> ${OSX_BUNDLE_INSTALL_DIR}/${OSX_BUNDLE_SUP_DIR}/template where ever that
> works out to be.  The fp-lib-table files themselves are part of the
> kicad-library source so hopefully the install path is the same for them
> on OSX as well.
>
> On 1/22/2015 4:10 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> > This is going to be slick, Wayne.  Is there any particular place that
> > seems decent to put the preconfigured fp-table-libs?  In my mind,
> > they're almost templates...
> >
> > Adam Wolf
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 1/22/2015 3:56 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >     > Do you mean <PREFSDIR>/fp-table-lib? (i.e., on
> >     > Linux ~/.config/kicad/fp-lib-table?)
> >
> >     Yes.
> >
> >     >
> >     > I really like this idea.  The wizard already does a good job
> explaining
> >     > what each type of fp-lib-table entry is.
> >
> >     Then it should be possible to add the code to copy a pre-configured
> >     fp-lib-table file to the proper path.  The only tricky part would be
> >     setting up any environment variables.  I have a patch that sets
> default
> >     environment variables for KIGITHUB and KISYS3DMOD on start up.  I
> >     haven't designed the dialog to edit them yet.  It needs tested on
> OSX so
> >     I will post it some time tomorrow to get some feed back.  The
> >     environment variables are saved in the kicad_common config file so
> you
> >     could simple add new config entry for something like KISYSMOD from
> the
> >     fp-lib-table wizard for footprint libraries stored on the system
> once I
> >     commit the code.
> >
> >     >
> >     > Adam Wolf
> >     >
> >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <
> stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     Maybe you could add an "Initialize Global Table" mode to the
> >     >     fp-lib-table wizard where a predefined table file is copied to
> ~/.  You
> >     >     could test for ~/fp-lib-table and enter this mode
> automatically or enter
> >     >     the "Edit Table" mode when ~/fp-lib-table is already defined.
> This
> >     >     would also prevent further cluttering of the library table
> editor.
> >     >
> >     >     On 1/22/2015 10:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >     >     > The new fp-lib-table wizard is great for adding new entries
> to the
> >     >     > current table, but does not appear to have a "load defaults"
> type option.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > However, this is based on using it, not reading the code, so
> it is
> >     >     > possible the feature is included somewhere I did not see.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Adam Wolf
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Nick Østergaard <
> oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     > <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     How does this compare to the new fp lib table wizard?
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     2015-01-22 6:09 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <
> adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >     >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>:
> >     >     >     > Hi folks!
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > I have a question about adding another feature to the
> >     >     >     fp-lib-tables manager,
> >     >     >     > which is already pretty crowded and I want to get
> buy-in
> >     >     before even
> >     >     >     > attempting a patch.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Background:
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Running into another issue with the KiCad Mac
> experience.
> >     >     Just to
> >     >     >     recap, I'm
> >     >     >     > trying for 2 DMGs.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > One is called "KiCad Extras" and currently includes
> >     the modules
> >     >     >     from github,
> >     >     >     > and the fp-table-lib.for-pretty renamed just
> >     fp-table-lib.  The
> >     >     >     idea is that
> >     >     >     > users can download the extras DMG, and no longer need
> >     to be
> >     >     online for
> >     >     >     > Kicad.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > The modules directory is fine, we provide a "drop
> target"
> >     >     (just a
> >     >     >     symlink)
> >     >     >     > of /Library/Application Support/kicad/.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > However, the fp-table-lib is tricky.  The per-user
> >     "global"
> >     >     (across
> >     >     >     > projects" fp-table-lib is located in
> >     >     ~/Library/Preferences/kicad/
> >     >     >     We cannot
> >     >     >     > make a "drop target" in a DMG that points to ~/.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Making a "package" works around this, but users don't
> like
> >     >     >     packages unless
> >     >     >     > they're part of App Store (because they usually don't
> >     >     realize they're
> >     >     >     > packages :)).  I don't want to do that.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Question:  Would a way to "load default fp-lib-tables"
> >     be useful
> >     >     >     to other
> >     >     >     > people in the library table manager?  This would take
> >     a look
> >     >     at what
> >     >     >     > fp-lib-tables.* are available in a location, and give
> >     users the
> >     >     >     ability to
> >     >     >     > replace their fp-lib-tables with known defaults--i.e.
> >     I want to
> >     >     >     use github,
> >     >     >     > I want to use eagle, I want to use on-disk pretties
> >     >     downloaded from
> >     >     >     > github...
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > The more I think about this, I think that it might not
> >     only help
> >     >     >     the Mac
> >     >     >     > install experience, but actually help the new user
> >     >     experience on all
> >     >     >     > platforms.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Thoughts?  (and greetings from Montreal, where I am on
> >     business
> >     >     >     and also
> >     >     >     > working on Kicad Mac nightlies while stuffed with curry
> >     >     poutine...)
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Adam Wolf
> >     >     >     > Cofounder and Engineer
> >     >     >     > W&L
> >     >     >     >
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