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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

That sounds like a good idea to me, but I think it should fall back to
looking in that directory if Github is not available.

I think the UI and most of the code would be the same, so I will start work
tonight...

Thoughts?
On Jan 22, 2015 4:29 PM, "Carl Poirier" <carl.poirier.2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Couldn't you pull the preconfigured fp-lib-tables from Github instead of a
> local directory? This way, it will be easy for the user to get the latest
> and greatest footprints!
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Great, thanks!
>> On Jan 22, 2015 4:20 PM, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> As of right now, the preloaded fp-lib-table files are installed in
>>> ${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/share/kicad/template on Linux and Windows.  On
>>> OSX they appear to be installed in
>>> ${OSX_BUNDLE_INSTALL_DIR}/${OSX_BUNDLE_SUP_DIR}/template where ever that
>>> works out to be.  The fp-lib-table files themselves are part of the
>>> kicad-library source so hopefully the install path is the same for them
>>> on OSX as well.
>>>
>>> On 1/22/2015 4:10 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>> > This is going to be slick, Wayne.  Is there any particular place that
>>> > seems decent to put the preconfigured fp-table-libs?  In my mind,
>>> > they're almost templates...
>>> >
>>> > Adam Wolf
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>>> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     On 1/22/2015 3:56 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>> >     > Do you mean <PREFSDIR>/fp-table-lib? (i.e., on
>>> >     > Linux ~/.config/kicad/fp-lib-table?)
>>> >
>>> >     Yes.
>>> >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > I really like this idea.  The wizard already does a good job
>>> explaining
>>> >     > what each type of fp-lib-table entry is.
>>> >
>>> >     Then it should be possible to add the code to copy a pre-configured
>>> >     fp-lib-table file to the proper path.  The only tricky part would
>>> be
>>> >     setting up any environment variables.  I have a patch that sets
>>> default
>>> >     environment variables for KIGITHUB and KISYS3DMOD on start up.  I
>>> >     haven't designed the dialog to edit them yet.  It needs tested on
>>> OSX so
>>> >     I will post it some time tomorrow to get some feed back.  The
>>> >     environment variables are saved in the kicad_common config file so
>>> you
>>> >     could simple add new config entry for something like KISYSMOD from
>>> the
>>> >     fp-lib-table wizard for footprint libraries stored on the system
>>> once I
>>> >     commit the code.
>>> >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Adam Wolf
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <
>>> stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Maybe you could add an "Initialize Global Table" mode to the
>>> >     >     fp-lib-table wizard where a predefined table file is copied
>>> to ~/.  You
>>> >     >     could test for ~/fp-lib-table and enter this mode
>>> automatically or enter
>>> >     >     the "Edit Table" mode when ~/fp-lib-table is already
>>> defined.  This
>>> >     >     would also prevent further cluttering of the library table
>>> editor.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     On 1/22/2015 10:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>> >     >     > The new fp-lib-table wizard is great for adding new
>>> entries to the
>>> >     >     > current table, but does not appear to have a "load
>>> defaults" type option.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > However, this is based on using it, not reading the code,
>>> so it is
>>> >     >     > possible the feature is included somewhere I did not see.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > Adam Wolf
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Nick Østergaard <
>>> oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >     >     > <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     How does this compare to the new fp lib table wizard?
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     2015-01-22 6:09 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <
>>> adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >     >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>:
>>> >     >     >     > Hi folks!
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > I have a question about adding another feature to the
>>> >     >     >     fp-lib-tables manager,
>>> >     >     >     > which is already pretty crowded and I want to get
>>> buy-in
>>> >     >     before even
>>> >     >     >     > attempting a patch.
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > Background:
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > Running into another issue with the KiCad Mac
>>> experience.
>>> >     >     Just to
>>> >     >     >     recap, I'm
>>> >     >     >     > trying for 2 DMGs.
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > One is called "KiCad Extras" and currently includes
>>> >     the modules
>>> >     >     >     from github,
>>> >     >     >     > and the fp-table-lib.for-pretty renamed just
>>> >     fp-table-lib.  The
>>> >     >     >     idea is that
>>> >     >     >     > users can download the extras DMG, and no longer need
>>> >     to be
>>> >     >     online for
>>> >     >     >     > Kicad.
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > The modules directory is fine, we provide a "drop
>>> target"
>>> >     >     (just a
>>> >     >     >     symlink)
>>> >     >     >     > of /Library/Application Support/kicad/.
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > However, the fp-table-lib is tricky.  The per-user
>>> >     "global"
>>> >     >     (across
>>> >     >     >     > projects" fp-table-lib is located in
>>> >     >     ~/Library/Preferences/kicad/
>>> >     >     >     We cannot
>>> >     >     >     > make a "drop target" in a DMG that points to ~/.
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > Making a "package" works around this, but users
>>> don't like
>>> >     >     >     packages unless
>>> >     >     >     > they're part of App Store (because they usually don't
>>> >     >     realize they're
>>> >     >     >     > packages :)).  I don't want to do that.
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > Question:  Would a way to "load default
>>> fp-lib-tables"
>>> >     be useful
>>> >     >     >     to other
>>> >     >     >     > people in the library table manager?  This would take
>>> >     a look
>>> >     >     at what
>>> >     >     >     > fp-lib-tables.* are available in a location, and give
>>> >     users the
>>> >     >     >     ability to
>>> >     >     >     > replace their fp-lib-tables with known defaults--i.e.
>>> >     I want to
>>> >     >     >     use github,
>>> >     >     >     > I want to use eagle, I want to use on-disk pretties
>>> >     >     downloaded from
>>> >     >     >     > github...
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > The more I think about this, I think that it might
>>> not
>>> >     only help
>>> >     >     >     the Mac
>>> >     >     >     > install experience, but actually help the new user
>>> >     >     experience on all
>>> >     >     >     > platforms.
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > Thoughts?  (and greetings from Montreal, where I am
>>> on
>>> >     business
>>> >     >     >     and also
>>> >     >     >     > working on Kicad Mac nightlies while stuffed with
>>> curry
>>> >     >     poutine...)
>>> >     >     >     >
>>> >     >     >     > Adam Wolf
>>> >     >     >     > Cofounder and Engineer
>>> >     >     >     > W&L
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