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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 1/22/2015 4:35 PM, Bob Gustafson wrote:
> If I don't do anything, KiCad wants the definition of KISYSMOD as an
> environment variable.

This is only true if you keep a copy of the footprint libraries on your
system and you don't use the GitHub plugin to access them from
https://github.com/KiCad.  Otherwise ${KISYSMOD} is replaced with
${KIGITHUB}.  Either way, you need the correct environment variable set.
 Otherwise, no libraries.

> 
> The window PCB LIBRARY TABLES shows ${KISYSMOD}/ in front of every
> component.
> 
> The panel below on the PCB LIBRARY TABLES window shows KISYSMOD as an
> undefined environment variable.
> 
> Kicad has trouble if KISYSMOD is not defined prior to running kicad
> 
> Bob G
> 
> On 01/22/2015 03:16 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> As of right now, the preloaded fp-lib-table files are installed in
>> ${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/share/kicad/template on Linux and Windows.  On
>> OSX they appear to be installed in
>> ${OSX_BUNDLE_INSTALL_DIR}/${OSX_BUNDLE_SUP_DIR}/template where ever that
>> works out to be.  The fp-lib-table files themselves are part of the
>> kicad-library source so hopefully the install path is the same for them
>> on OSX as well.
>>
>> On 1/22/2015 4:10 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>> This is going to be slick, Wayne.  Is there any particular place that
>>> seems decent to put the preconfigured fp-table-libs?  In my mind,
>>> they're almost templates...
>>>
>>> Adam Wolf
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      On 1/22/2015 3:56 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>>      > Do you mean <PREFSDIR>/fp-table-lib? (i.e., on
>>>      > Linux ~/.config/kicad/fp-lib-table?)
>>>
>>>      Yes.
>>>
>>>      >
>>>      > I really like this idea.  The wizard already does a good job
>>> explaining
>>>      > what each type of fp-lib-table entry is.
>>>
>>>      Then it should be possible to add the code to copy a pre-configured
>>>      fp-lib-table file to the proper path.  The only tricky part
>>> would be
>>>      setting up any environment variables.  I have a patch that sets
>>> default
>>>      environment variables for KIGITHUB and KISYS3DMOD on start up.  I
>>>      haven't designed the dialog to edit them yet.  It needs tested
>>> on OSX so
>>>      I will post it some time tomorrow to get some feed back.  The
>>>      environment variables are saved in the kicad_common config file
>>> so you
>>>      could simple add new config entry for something like KISYSMOD
>>> from the
>>>      fp-lib-table wizard for footprint libraries stored on the system
>>> once I
>>>      commit the code.
>>>
>>>      >
>>>      > Adam Wolf
>>>      >
>>>      > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh
>>> <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>      > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>      >
>>>      >     Maybe you could add an "Initialize Global Table" mode to the
>>>      >     fp-lib-table wizard where a predefined table file is
>>> copied to ~/.  You
>>>      >     could test for ~/fp-lib-table and enter this mode
>>> automatically or enter
>>>      >     the "Edit Table" mode when ~/fp-lib-table is already
>>> defined.  This
>>>      >     would also prevent further cluttering of the library table
>>> editor.
>>>      >
>>>      >     On 1/22/2015 10:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>>      >     > The new fp-lib-table wizard is great for adding new
>>> entries to the
>>>      >     > current table, but does not appear to have a "load
>>> defaults" type option.
>>>      >     >
>>>      >     > However, this is based on using it, not reading the
>>> code, so it is
>>>      >     > possible the feature is included somewhere I did not see.
>>>      >     >
>>>      >     > Adam Wolf
>>>      >     >
>>>      >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Nick Østergaard
>>> <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>      <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>      >     > <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>      <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>>>      >     >
>>>      >     >     How does this compare to the new fp lib table wizard?
>>>      >     >
>>>      >     >     2015-01-22 6:09 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
>>> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>      <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>      <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>      >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>      <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>      >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>      <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>:
>>>      >     >     > Hi folks!
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > I have a question about adding another feature to the
>>>      >     >     fp-lib-tables manager,
>>>      >     >     > which is already pretty crowded and I want to get
>>> buy-in
>>>      >     before even
>>>      >     >     > attempting a patch.
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > Background:
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > Running into another issue with the KiCad Mac
>>> experience.
>>>      >     Just to
>>>      >     >     recap, I'm
>>>      >     >     > trying for 2 DMGs.
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > One is called "KiCad Extras" and currently includes
>>>      the modules
>>>      >     >     from github,
>>>      >     >     > and the fp-table-lib.for-pretty renamed just
>>>      fp-table-lib.  The
>>>      >     >     idea is that
>>>      >     >     > users can download the extras DMG, and no longer need
>>>      to be
>>>      >     online for
>>>      >     >     > Kicad.
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > The modules directory is fine, we provide a "drop
>>> target"
>>>      >     (just a
>>>      >     >     symlink)
>>>      >     >     > of /Library/Application Support/kicad/.
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > However, the fp-table-lib is tricky.  The per-user
>>>      "global"
>>>      >     (across
>>>      >     >     > projects" fp-table-lib is located in
>>>      >     ~/Library/Preferences/kicad/
>>>      >     >     We cannot
>>>      >     >     > make a "drop target" in a DMG that points to ~/.
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > Making a "package" works around this, but users
>>> don't like
>>>      >     >     packages unless
>>>      >     >     > they're part of App Store (because they usually don't
>>>      >     realize they're
>>>      >     >     > packages :)).  I don't want to do that.
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > Question:  Would a way to "load default
>>> fp-lib-tables"
>>>      be useful
>>>      >     >     to other
>>>      >     >     > people in the library table manager?  This would take
>>>      a look
>>>      >     at what
>>>      >     >     > fp-lib-tables.* are available in a location, and give
>>>      users the
>>>      >     >     ability to
>>>      >     >     > replace their fp-lib-tables with known defaults--i.e.
>>>      I want to
>>>      >     >     use github,
>>>      >     >     > I want to use eagle, I want to use on-disk pretties
>>>      >     downloaded from
>>>      >     >     > github...
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > The more I think about this, I think that it might
>>> not
>>>      only help
>>>      >     >     the Mac
>>>      >     >     > install experience, but actually help the new user
>>>      >     experience on all
>>>      >     >     > platforms.
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > Thoughts?  (and greetings from Montreal, where I
>>> am on
>>>      business
>>>      >     >     and also
>>>      >     >     > working on Kicad Mac nightlies while stuffed with
>>> curry
>>>      >     poutine...)
>>>      >     >     >
>>>      >     >     > Adam Wolf
>>>      >     >     > Cofounder and Engineer
>>>      >     >     > W&L
>>>      >     >     >
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