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[Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

I guess that only the fp-lib-table.for-github should be fetched from
the internet. The others should be fetched locally, because they are
installed locally. As I see it.

2015-01-22 22:33 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> That sounds like a good idea to me, but I think it should fall back to
> looking in that directory if Github is not available.
>
> I think the UI and most of the code would be the same, so I will start work
> tonight...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Jan 22, 2015 4:29 PM, "Carl Poirier" <carl.poirier.2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Couldn't you pull the preconfigured fp-lib-tables from Github instead of a
>> local directory? This way, it will be easy for the user to get the latest
>> and greatest footprints!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great, thanks!
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2015 4:20 PM, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As of right now, the preloaded fp-lib-table files are installed in
>>>> ${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/share/kicad/template on Linux and Windows.  On
>>>> OSX they appear to be installed in
>>>> ${OSX_BUNDLE_INSTALL_DIR}/${OSX_BUNDLE_SUP_DIR}/template where ever that
>>>> works out to be.  The fp-lib-table files themselves are part of the
>>>> kicad-library source so hopefully the install path is the same for them
>>>> on OSX as well.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/22/2015 4:10 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>>> > This is going to be slick, Wayne.  Is there any particular place that
>>>> > seems decent to put the preconfigured fp-table-libs?  In my mind,
>>>> > they're almost templates...
>>>> >
>>>> > Adam Wolf
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     On 1/22/2015 3:56 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>>> >     > Do you mean <PREFSDIR>/fp-table-lib? (i.e., on
>>>> >     > Linux ~/.config/kicad/fp-lib-table?)
>>>> >
>>>> >     Yes.
>>>> >
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > I really like this idea.  The wizard already does a good job
>>>> > explaining
>>>> >     > what each type of fp-lib-table entry is.
>>>> >
>>>> >     Then it should be possible to add the code to copy a
>>>> > pre-configured
>>>> >     fp-lib-table file to the proper path.  The only tricky part would
>>>> > be
>>>> >     setting up any environment variables.  I have a patch that sets
>>>> > default
>>>> >     environment variables for KIGITHUB and KISYS3DMOD on start up.  I
>>>> >     haven't designed the dialog to edit them yet.  It needs tested on
>>>> > OSX so
>>>> >     I will post it some time tomorrow to get some feed back.  The
>>>> >     environment variables are saved in the kicad_common config file so
>>>> > you
>>>> >     could simple add new config entry for something like KISYSMOD from
>>>> > the
>>>> >     fp-lib-table wizard for footprint libraries stored on the system
>>>> > once I
>>>> >     commit the code.
>>>> >
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > Adam Wolf
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh
>>>> > <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     >     Maybe you could add an "Initialize Global Table" mode to the
>>>> >     >     fp-lib-table wizard where a predefined table file is copied
>>>> > to ~/.  You
>>>> >     >     could test for ~/fp-lib-table and enter this mode
>>>> > automatically or enter
>>>> >     >     the "Edit Table" mode when ~/fp-lib-table is already
>>>> > defined.  This
>>>> >     >     would also prevent further cluttering of the library table
>>>> > editor.
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     >     On 1/22/2015 10:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>>> >     >     > The new fp-lib-table wizard is great for adding new
>>>> > entries to the
>>>> >     >     > current table, but does not appear to have a "load
>>>> > defaults" type option.
>>>> >     >     >
>>>> >     >     > However, this is based on using it, not reading the code,
>>>> > so it is
>>>> >     >     > possible the feature is included somewhere I did not see.
>>>> >     >     >
>>>> >     >     > Adam Wolf
>>>> >     >     >
>>>> >     >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Nick Østergaard
>>>> > <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> >     >     > <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>>>> >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     How does this compare to the new fp lib table wizard?
>>>> >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     2015-01-22 6:09 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf
>>>> > <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> >     >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>:
>>>> >     >     >     > Hi folks!
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > I have a question about adding another feature to
>>>> > the
>>>> >     >     >     fp-lib-tables manager,
>>>> >     >     >     > which is already pretty crowded and I want to get
>>>> > buy-in
>>>> >     >     before even
>>>> >     >     >     > attempting a patch.
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > Background:
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > Running into another issue with the KiCad Mac
>>>> > experience.
>>>> >     >     Just to
>>>> >     >     >     recap, I'm
>>>> >     >     >     > trying for 2 DMGs.
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > One is called "KiCad Extras" and currently includes
>>>> >     the modules
>>>> >     >     >     from github,
>>>> >     >     >     > and the fp-table-lib.for-pretty renamed just
>>>> >     fp-table-lib.  The
>>>> >     >     >     idea is that
>>>> >     >     >     > users can download the extras DMG, and no longer
>>>> > need
>>>> >     to be
>>>> >     >     online for
>>>> >     >     >     > Kicad.
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > The modules directory is fine, we provide a "drop
>>>> > target"
>>>> >     >     (just a
>>>> >     >     >     symlink)
>>>> >     >     >     > of /Library/Application Support/kicad/.
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > However, the fp-table-lib is tricky.  The per-user
>>>> >     "global"
>>>> >     >     (across
>>>> >     >     >     > projects" fp-table-lib is located in
>>>> >     >     ~/Library/Preferences/kicad/
>>>> >     >     >     We cannot
>>>> >     >     >     > make a "drop target" in a DMG that points to ~/.
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > Making a "package" works around this, but users
>>>> > don't like
>>>> >     >     >     packages unless
>>>> >     >     >     > they're part of App Store (because they usually
>>>> > don't
>>>> >     >     realize they're
>>>> >     >     >     > packages :)).  I don't want to do that.
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > Question:  Would a way to "load default
>>>> > fp-lib-tables"
>>>> >     be useful
>>>> >     >     >     to other
>>>> >     >     >     > people in the library table manager?  This would
>>>> > take
>>>> >     a look
>>>> >     >     at what
>>>> >     >     >     > fp-lib-tables.* are available in a location, and
>>>> > give
>>>> >     users the
>>>> >     >     >     ability to
>>>> >     >     >     > replace their fp-lib-tables with known
>>>> > defaults--i.e.
>>>> >     I want to
>>>> >     >     >     use github,
>>>> >     >     >     > I want to use eagle, I want to use on-disk pretties
>>>> >     >     downloaded from
>>>> >     >     >     > github...
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > The more I think about this, I think that it might
>>>> > not
>>>> >     only help
>>>> >     >     >     the Mac
>>>> >     >     >     > install experience, but actually help the new user
>>>> >     >     experience on all
>>>> >     >     >     > platforms.
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > Thoughts?  (and greetings from Montreal, where I am
>>>> > on
>>>> >     business
>>>> >     >     >     and also
>>>> >     >     >     > working on Kicad Mac nightlies while stuffed with
>>>> > curry
>>>> >     >     poutine...)
>>>> >     >     >     >
>>>> >     >     >     > Adam Wolf
>>>> >     >     >     > Cofounder and Engineer
>>>> >     >     >     > W&L
>>>> >     >     >     >
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