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[Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

2015-02-19 19:45 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Thanks, Adam.
>
> Before I respond, I’d just like to say to Adam what a fantastic job he’s
> done with the OS X nightly packages.  I took a look at these and they’re
> great.  Others have pointed out a few remaining niggles, but these are tiny
> compared to the huge win for the Kicad and the OS X users.  It was a huge
> effort, I’m sure, and probably annoying at times, but I don’t want it to be
> thankless.  Thank you, Adam.
>
> Nick, I think Adam wasn’t referring to issues, per se, but rather to some
> things that I brought up on the list, as he has pointed out.  There’s a bit
> more detail in this commit message:
>
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gcorral/kicad/osx-trackpad-gestures/revision/5244
>
> There were some small, intentional changes I made to the behavior that make
> sense on OS X, and I just wanted to make sure that they were sane on other
> platforms as well.

Ahh ok. cmd would be ctrl on linux and windows keyboards I guess. IIRC
I tried the patch (not sure what version) but it seemed to work as it
was supposed to, altough I like the unchecked version (default scroll
zoom). Switching the pan direction keys... are meh, does not matter
that much, one finds the correct one pretty quickly. Maybe it would be
an option to actually add it to the hotkey editor.

> Garth
>
> On Feb 19, 2015, at 4:56 AM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> This is the post where Garth expressed concern about merging due to the
> trackpad patch changing how things work.  I think he's talking about the
> delta with the scrollwheel--not sure.
>
> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg15604.html
>
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> W&L
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> 2015-02-19 5:10 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> > Hi, Nick
>> >
>> > There were a couple of things that prevented me from requesting a merge.
>> > The first was simply that it had little to no testing on other than OS X,
>> > and I wanted to get more flight time on other platforms and pointing devices
>> > to make sure it behaves well.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> > The other thing that I can recall is that there is some work needed on
>> > the preference for the 3d viewer and pl_editor.  If I recall correctly,
>> > there was no straightforward way to propagate the mouse preferences from
>> > pcbnew to the 3d_canvas, and there was no place at all to hang the
>> > preferences for pl_editor.  Orson and I had a very brief conversation
>> > on-list about where these prefs belong, but it wasn’t more than a passing
>> > thought.  I’m sure it these are solvable without too much drama, but it was
>> > about this time that I was pulled away from kicad by an increased workload
>> > at work and some family issues.
>>
>> Ahh yes, I remember that conversation now. But I am not quite sure
>> what the issue Adam was talking about in linux was. I mean, if it does
>> not change the behaivour of the default (current) behaivour it should
>> not be an issue IMO.
>>
>> > Since then I’ve tried to merge the product branch about once a week, but
>> > I haven’t done much more than that.  I hadn’t thought about requesting a
>> > merge simply because I wasn’t sure I’d have the time to work on it.  I can
>> > try to make some more time for this if folks think it’s important, but I
>> > can’t reliably predict the outcome.  As it stands now it should be pretty
>> > usable on OS X unless one or more of my merges went badly.  I’m using it in
>> > my builds and haven’t noticed anything, but I haven’t been exercising it as
>> > much as I’d like.
>> >
>> > Garth
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You should try out Garth's OS X trackpad patch, see the email thread
>> >>
>> >> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg15527.html
>> >>
>> >> It will add another option to the properties window, where you can
>> >> enable this feature, and it probably make it better to use for some
>> >> people. I have tested it on linux and found no issues, although I use
>> >> the default mode which I like better (usually).
>> >>
>> >> @Garth, is there any current issues with your patch that blocks merge?
>> >>
>> >> 2015-02-18 5:56 GMT+01:00 Bob Gustafson <bobgus@xxxxxxx>:
>> >>> OK, View->default, I do see the scrollbars.
>> >>> View->openGL and View->Cairo, I don't see scrollbars.
>> >>>
>> >>> In all views, my trackpad (up-down or sideways) just controls the
>> >>> zoom. No
>> >>> panning.
>> >>>
>> >>> What are the recommended settings for a built-in trackpad with one
>> >>> clicker?
>> >>>
>> >>> Bob G
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 02/17/2015 07:33 PM, Blair Bonnett wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18 February 2015 at 14:05, Maciej Sumiński
>> >>> <maciej.suminski@xxxxxxx>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In GAL mode there are no scrollbars by design, it is not a Mac OS X
>> >>>> issue. Do users miss them?
>> >>>
>> >>> Personally I'd never noticed there were scrollbars in the default
>> >>> canvas,
>> >>> let alone that they were missing in GAL mode...
>> >>>
>> >>> A quick search on the bug tracker didn't turn up any complaints about
>> >>> them
>> >>> missing.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bob: do you use the scrollbars because panning with the mousewheel
>> >>> doesn't
>> >>> work for you, or is it more out of habit?
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Blair