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[Bernhard Stegmaier <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I don't know if it helps... I am building pixman with MacPorts, and I 
used to have it compiled with X11, but I recently switched to use the 
--without-x11.
For me both work, I don't see what the difference is (apart from less 
X11-libraries needed in the bundle when compiling with --without-x11).

SSE-wise Core2Duo and i5 should be the same.
But maybe pixman builds with some specific i5 -march/-mcpu settings that 
don't work on Core2Duo?
But, obviously Adam pulled in a prebuilt binary for this nightly that 
also doesn't work for you.
As far as I know homebrew bottled packages should have generic CFLAGS, 
so this should have worked then (if the binary really was bottled with 
generic CFLAGS).


Regards,
Bernhard

On 2015-02-23 12:40, Johannes Maibaum wrote:
> Hello Adam, Garth, and Bernhard,
>
> first, the build of last night (r5447) still crashes on my system with
> the same report pointing towards libpixman.
>
> My system is an older Mac Book Pro (middle 2010) with the following 
> base specs:
>
> Modellname:               MacBook Pro
> Modell-Identifizierung:   MacBookPro7,1
> Prozessortyp:             Intel Core 2 Duo
> Prozessorgeschwindigkeit: 2,4 GHz
> Anzahl der Prozessoren:   1
> Gesamtanzahl der Kerne:   2
> L2-Cache:	          3 MB
>
> With libpixman obviously being the source of trouble, I looked for
> differences between my own working build system and Adam's nightlies:
> On my machine, pixman comes as a dependency for cairo, which I also
> installed via Homebrew, but built with the option --without-x11.
> pixman itself was installed "bottled", e.g. as a precompiled binary.
>
> Seeing that I am obviously the only one having troubles like this with
> the nightlies, I will build the current Kicad source tree myself again
> this afternoon, and see if pcbnew will then crash again or not.
>
>
> Best,
> Johannes
>
> > Am 23.02.2015 um 01:41 schrieb Adam Wolf 
> > <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > So when I reinstalled it, it installed a binary version without 
> > downloading, which means that's very likely what was installed on 
> > there before. I forced it to reinstall from source--but that is 
> > probably going to be different than the binary version.
> >
> > I will send the build log for pixman over when it is finished, but we 
> > will need the affected users to test out tonight's nightlies to make 
> > sure they're still affected.
> >
> > Adam Wolf
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > Yeah, not shipped with OS X.  It would be something that was built.  
> > Presuming that the new build configured exactly like the old build it 
> > would be interesting to see.
> >
> >
> > Garth
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Adam Wolf 
> > > <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting.  Is this something that comes with OS X?  If not, I 
> > > installed it with brew.  I can uninstall it and reinstall it, and 
> > > capture that log.
> > >
> > > Let me know.
> > >
> > > Adam Wolf
> > >
> > > On Feb 22, 2015 5:47 PM, "Garth Corral" <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > More interesting would be the build log for pixman which, according 
> > > to the attached log, is coming from /usr/local/lib.
> > >
> > > Garth
> > >
> > > > On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Adam Wolf 
> > > > <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The builds are being done on a Mac Mini.
> > > >
> > > >       Model Name: Mac mini
> > > >       Model Identifier: Macmini6,1
> > > >       Processor Name: Intel Core i5
> > > >       Processor Speed: 2.5 GHz
> > > >       Number of Processors: 1
> > > >       Total Number of Cores: 2
> > > >       L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
> > > >       L3 Cache: 3 MB
> > > >       Memory: 16 GB
> > > >
> > > > The official Mac name for it is "Mac Mini (late 2012)".
> > > >
> > > > Attached is the full build log from Jenkins.  Note, I cleanly 
> > > > rebuild *everything* every time, including wx and boost and 
> > > > everything, so the log is quite long.
> > > >
> > > > Adam Wolf
> > > > Cofounder and Engineer
> > > > W&L
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Bernhard Stegmaier 
> > > > <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Sounds reasonable… from a quick look into the source pixman seems to 
> > > > check for MMX/SSE2/SSE3 and some non-x86 things during configure.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe the same problem here:
> > > >   https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1424406
> > > >
> > > > @Adam:
> > > > What is your build machine/cluster?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bernhard
> > > >
> > > > > On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:12, Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I can only speculate, but by the looks of that stack, I’m going to 
> > > > > guess that somewhere in the pixman rendering code there is 
> > > > > conditionally compiled instruction extensions, such as SSE*, that 
> > > > > your cpu does not support.  The nightly builds probably compile 
> > > > > this in based on some configuration test, and your builds do not.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the cpu type and age of your system?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Garth
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 22, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier 
> > > > > > <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, didn’t get that.
> > > > > > From my side there is really not much more to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only thing that I could imagine is if Wayne could do a 
> > > > > > Debug-Build for you and then you could check if you still get that 
> > > > > > crash and if there is some other information we could get from 
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The bundle is self contained, so apart from the system libraries 
> > > > > > (which should be the same on each 10.10.2) there is in theory 
> > > > > > nothing on your machine that should break it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What machine is it?
> > > > > > Something special about it that could cause pixman to crash on 
> > > > > > start?
> > > > > > Did you have any special pixman version/configuration with your 
> > > > > > build?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Bernhard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 22.02.2015, at 20:06, Johannes Maibaum <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Bernard,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I think. The version information I 
> > > > > > > provided with my last email was *not* from the nightlies. It was 
> > > > > > > from a working built on my machine, e.g. a build that does *not* 
> > > > > > > crash.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought to provide this information a starting point for 
> > > > > > > further analysis of the crash with the nightly which is of course 
> > > > > > > built with Boost 1.54, and from r5441.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Johannes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am 22.02.2015 um 19:22 schrieb Bernhard Stegmaier 
> > > > > > > > <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > … I also was too fast with my response, adding list again…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 22.02.2015, at 19:21, Bernhard Stegmaier 
> > > > > > > > > <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Johannes,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it is lib-pixmap what seems to be crashing, but that is weird.
> > > > > > > > > I found some similar reports of crashes with 
> > > > > > > > > Mozilla/Firefox/etc., but none of them with a root-cause or 
> > > > > > > > > more information.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > However, something *is* wrong:
> > > > > > > > > > Boost version: 1.57.0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Adam’s build doesn’t use 1.57, but 1.54 currently being built 
> > > > > > > > > with KiCad…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And also the build version is not what Adam built:
> > > > > > > > > > Version: (2015-02-06 BZR 5410)-product Release build
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, whatever you are running, it doesn’t seem to be the 
> > > > > > > > > downloaded nightly?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > Bernhard
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 22.02.2015, at 19:20, Johannes Maibaum <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Bernhard,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the crash happens both when starting pcbnew standalone, and 
> > > > > > > > > > when starting pcbnew or the footprint editor from the main 
> > > > > > > > > > Kicad app. Unfortunately, I don't have another Mac to cross 
> > > > > > > > > > check. On my 10.10.2 machine, it crashes every time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I did however check my latest own build again, which has no 
> > > > > > > > > > problems with either pcbnew or the footprint editor. It was 
> > > > > > > > > > built two weeks ago, from r5410, and with python scripting 
> > > > > > > > > > enabled. I don't know if this does help you, but here is the 
> > > > > > > > > > version information string for this working build:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Application: kicad
> > > > > > > > > > Version: (2015-02-06 BZR 5410)-product Release build
> > > > > > > > > > wxWidgets: Version 3.0.2 (debug,UTF-8,compiler with C++ ABI 
> > > > > > > > > > 1002,GCC 4.2.1,STL containers,compatible with 2.8)
> > > > > > > > > > Platform: Mac OS X (Darwin 14.1.0 x86_64), 64 bit, Little 
> > > > > > > > > > endian, wxMac
> > > > > > > > > > Boost version: 1.57.0
> > > > > > > > > >    USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
> > > > > > > > > >    USE_WX_OVERLAY=ON
> > > > > > > > > >    KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
> > > > > > > > > >    KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
> > > > > > > > > >    KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
> > > > > > > > > >    USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
> > > > > > > > > >    BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON
> > > > > > > > > >    KICAD_USE_WEBKIT=OFF
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Johannes
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Am 22.02.2015 um 18:12 schrieb Bernhard Stegmaier 
> > > > > > > > > > > <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > does it crash only for standalone pcbnew, or also for that 
> > > > > > > > > > > being launched via KiCad launcher, or both?
> > > > > > > > > > > I justed checked on both my 10.10.1 and 10.10.2 machines and 
> > > > > > > > > > > don’t have any problems.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The only thing I just noticed is that pcbnew can’t load a 
> > > > > > > > > > > file via KiCad launcher if started from a path with a space 
> > > > > > > > > > > in it (e.g., /Volumes/My Disk/KiCad…) … but yours seems to be 
> > > > > > > > > > > completely another story.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > Bernhard
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 Feb 2015, at 14:05, Johannes Maibaum 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Adam,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > first, I'd like to thank you, Wayne and Layne, and of course 
> > > > > > > > > > > > all the other OSX devs for finally bringing "official" OSX 
> > > > > > > > > > > > builds back to the Kicad main page, great work! This is an 
> > > > > > > > > > > > amazing improvement for all OSX folks.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But, testing the latest of the nightly builds, PCBNew and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the Footprint editor both crash on startup on my machine 
> > > > > > > > > > > > (crash log for PCBNew is attached). All other apps work 
> > > > > > > > > > > > fine.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Before installing the nightly, I uninstalled my own build of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kicad, and I am pretty sure to having wiped every Kicad file 
> > > > > > > > > > > > relating to my build (including all the library folders). 
> > > > > > > > > > > > But perhaps I have missed something.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I can provide you with more information if you tell me what 
> > > > > > > > > > > > to do.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Johannes
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > <PCBNew-crashlog-OSX-nightly-Feb-22.txt>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 21.02.2015 um 18:29 schrieb Adam Wolf 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find the latest OS X nightlies at 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/, and Nick linked it 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > from http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There's plenty of work still left to do for me on Kicad, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but I am excited to cross this one off the list.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be idling on the IRC channel more actively to help 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > support users with this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll be announcing on the Kicad user list shortly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks everyone!  Even though this was a lot of work from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > us at Wayne and Layne, what we did was only a drop in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bucket compared to what has already been done by the dev 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > team and the OS X devs!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Adam Wolf
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