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[Johannes Maibaum <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Adam,

I just tried your build, and it works like a charm. I'm now looking forward to regularly
using the Kicad OSX nightlies. Again, thank you for all your effort improving the Kicad
experience for OSX users!


Best,
Johannes

> Am 23.02.2015 um 22:48 schrieb Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> Hi Johannes,
> 
> Can you try the build here:
> 
> http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/DEBUG/
> 
> Please let me know if it is the exact same crash, a different one, or if by some miracle it works :)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Adam Wolf
> 
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 2015-02-23 19:17 GMT+01:00 Bob Gustafson <bobgus@xxxxxxx>:
> > I wonder whether the idea of the Nightlies is being torn between two goals:
> >
> > 1) Having a system that more or less 'all' Mac users can use.
> > 2) Doing bleeding edge build/tests on the latest repository changes.
> 
> Those can easily coexist. Tell me why a user installer can't use
> latest features of the product branch. Doing nightlies is not to test
> the depends of the system, it is to test features in _kicad_.
> 
> Testing compatability with different versions of the depends, that is
> what the diverse group of users (also including those who build
> themselves, likely with another versiuon of the depends) do and the
> feedback channel is the bugtracker or mailing list. No conflict of
> interest here.
> 
> Also the ci.kicad-pcb.org tries to ensure that at least the latest
> commits build, and if not alert the developers.
> 
> > Just an observation.
> >
> > Bob G
> >
> >
> > On 02/23/2015 11:42 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> >
> > Homebrew has a feature built in for building for "oldestmac".  I need to
> > figure it out, but this should be fixed in our nightlies in the next few
> > days.  I'll let everyone know when our Core 2 users should retest.
> >
> > Thanks everyone!
> >
> > Adam Wolf
> >
> > On Feb 23, 2015 11:31 AM, "Bernhard Stegmaier" <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> In my Gentoo days I always used -march=core2 (and nothing else except -O2)
> >> for CFLAGS on my old Core2Duo machine.
> >> There is more to tweak if you want to squeeze out every last option, but
> >> in general it should be pretty much OK to use I guess.
> >>
> >> I never was sure though, if passing a “-march=xxx” via CFLAGS will prevent
> >> additional checks used in some configure.sh to use something that the real
> >> CPU allows but “-march=xxx” wouldn’t (and you would have to supply
> >> additional —disable-xxx flags to configure.sh).
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Bernhard
> >>
> >> On 23 Feb 2015, at 17:58, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> More details:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/issues/21778
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Adam Wolf
> >> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am fine building for Core Duo--but it'll be more than just changing
> >>> -march, it looks like I'll also have to set the other optional flags as
> >>> well, like SSE et al at the bottom of:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Homebrew/os/mac/hardware.rb
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone on this list own a Core Duo mac?  If so I'd like to just
> >>> steal the flags that system uses...
> >>>
> >>> Adam Wolf
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Johannes Maibaum <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> sounds all reasonable and clear, Garth. Thank you for the explanation!
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally, I have no problem in building my own version from the
> >>>> sources, but I think there
> >>>> are still quite a bunch of Core2s in Apple machines out there, so
> >>>> perhaps the nightlies
> >>>> should go for a more backwards compatibility than i5 and siblings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking here,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Homebrew/os/mac/hardware.rb
> >>>>
> >>>> it seems that Homebrew indeed makes different choices for -march
> >>>> depending on the CPU type
> >>>> found. So, I think the "best arch for compatibility" then would probably
> >>>> be the oldest intel
> >>>> CPU found there, which seems to be Core Duo.
> >>>>
> >>>> Another solution would of course be to simply state in the README that
> >>>> the nightlies won't
> >>>> work on machines lower than i5. As I said, I have no problem in building
> >>>> Kicad myself. I just
> >>>> wanted to report my experience with the nightlies, which are nonetheless
> >>>> a great improvement
> >>>> for new, unexperienced Mac OSX users.
> >>>>
> >>>> So again, thank you all for your great work and help!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Johannes
> >>>>
> >>>> > Am 23.02.2015 um 17:22 schrieb Adam Wolf
> >>>> > <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > What's the best arch I should pass for compatibility reasons--I can do
> >>>> > this across the board for the brew dependencies.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Adam Wolf
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> > The issue here isn’t with pixman, per se, it is down to the fact that
> >>>> > it is being configured and built on one machine with support for some newer
> >>>> > vector instructions, and run on another who’s cpu does not support those
> >>>> > instructions.  So long as it’s built and run on the same machine you would
> >>>> > not see this.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In this case there appears at the crash location in
> >>>> > _pixman_setup_combiner_functions_32 of libpixman.dylib:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 000000000001092a    vmovq   %r8, %xmm0
> >>>> > 000000000001092f    vpunpcklqdq %xmm0, %xmm0, %xmm0 ## xmm0 =
> >>>> > xmm0[0,0]
> >>>> >
> >>>> > These are AVX (&AVX2) instructions, which aren't supported in your
> >>>> > Core 2 CPU.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I don’t use brew so I can’t say for sure, but I’m guessing that it's
> >>>> > passing -march=native (or more specific) to the compiler, which because the
> >>>> > Core i5 of the build machine supports AVX, is including those instructions.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Garth
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > On Feb 23, 2015, at 5:21 AM, Johannes Maibaum <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > > wrote:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Hi,
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > my own build of r5447 just finished and pcbnew does *not* crash.
> >>>> > > I decided to change my build flags to match Adam's more closely,
> >>>> > > e.g. building without
> >>>> > > Scripting, here is what the version information *from my own build*
> >>>> > > gives now:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Application: kicad
> >>>> > > Version: (2015-02-22 BZR 5447)-product Release build
> >>>> > > wxWidgets: Version 3.0.2 (debug,UTF-8,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC
> >>>> > > 4.2.1,STL containers,compatible with 2.8)
> >>>> > > Platform: Mac OS X (Darwin 14.1.0 x86_64), 64 bit, Little endian,
> >>>> > > wxMac
> >>>> > > Boost version: 1.57.0
> >>>> > >         USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
> >>>> > >         USE_WX_OVERLAY=ON
> >>>> > >         KICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF
> >>>> > >         KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF
> >>>> > >         KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF
> >>>> > >         USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
> >>>> > >         BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON
> >>>> > >         KICAD_USE_WEBKIT=OFF
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > So, the only differences between my setup and the nightly should be,
> >>>> > > for now:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > - Boost being 1.57.0 here instead of 1.54.0
> >>>> > > - cairo built --without-x11 instead of with X11 support.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > I think that pixmap should be technically the same on my machine and
> >>>> > > on Adam's build server,
> >>>> > > as they both got installed precompiled from Homebrew.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > But, what came to my mind just now: I built with
> >>>> > > CMAKE_OSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET set to 10.9
> >>>> > > (wxWidgets being built with the 10.9 option from the osx_build_wx
> >>>> > > script as well), so
> >>>> > > it should be linked to the newer C++ libraries from Apple, right?
> >>>> > > Could this be another
> >>>> > > hint? I expect Adam to build for a lower OSX Version, like 10.7 or
> >>>> > > so, right?
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Best,
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Johannes
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >> Am 23.02.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Bernhard Stegmaier
> >>>> > >> <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Hi,
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> I don't know if it helps... I am building pixman with MacPorts, and
> >>>> > >> I used to have it compiled with X11, but I recently switched to use the
> >>>> > >> --without-x11.
> >>>> > >> For me both work, I don't see what the difference is (apart from
> >>>> > >> less X11-libraries needed in the bundle when compiling with --without-x11).
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> SSE-wise Core2Duo and i5 should be the same.
> >>>> > >> But maybe pixman builds with some specific i5 -march/-mcpu settings
> >>>> > >> that don't work on Core2Duo?
> >>>> > >> But, obviously Adam pulled in a prebuilt binary for this nightly
> >>>> > >> that also doesn't work for you.
> >>>> > >> As far as I know homebrew bottled packages should have generic
> >>>> > >> CFLAGS, so this should have worked then (if the binary really was bottled
> >>>> > >> with generic CFLAGS).
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Regards,
> >>>> > >> Bernhard
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> On 2015-02-23 12:40, Johannes Maibaum wrote:
> >>>> > >>> Hello Adam, Garth, and Bernhard,
> >>>> > >>> first, the build of last night (r5447) still crashes on my system
> >>>> > >>> with
> >>>> > >>> the same report pointing towards libpixman.
> >>>> > >>> My system is an older Mac Book Pro (middle 2010) with the
> >>>> > >>> following base specs:
> >>>> > >>> Modellname:               MacBook Pro
> >>>> > >>> Modell-Identifizierung:   MacBookPro7,1
> >>>> > >>> Prozessortyp:             Intel Core 2 Duo
> >>>> > >>> Prozessorgeschwindigkeit: 2,4 GHz
> >>>> > >>> Anzahl der Prozessoren:   1
> >>>> > >>> Gesamtanzahl der Kerne:   2
> >>>> > >>> L2-Cache:             3 MB
> >>>> > >>> With libpixman obviously being the source of trouble, I looked for
> >>>> > >>> differences between my own working build system and Adam's
> >>>> > >>> nightlies:
> >>>> > >>> On my machine, pixman comes as a dependency for cairo, which I
> >>>> > >>> also
> >>>> > >>> installed via Homebrew, but built with the option --without-x11.
> >>>> > >>> pixman itself was installed "bottled", e.g. as a precompiled
> >>>> > >>> binary.
> >>>> > >>> Seeing that I am obviously the only one having troubles like this
> >>>> > >>> with
> >>>> > >>> the nightlies, I will build the current Kicad source tree myself
> >>>> > >>> again
> >>>> > >>> this afternoon, and see if pcbnew will then crash again or not.
> >>>> > >>> Best,
> >>>> > >>> Johannes
> >>>> > >>>> Am 23.02.2015 um 01:41 schrieb Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >>>> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>> > >>>> So when I reinstalled it, it installed a binary version without
> >>>> > >>>> downloading, which means that's very likely what was installed on there
> >>>> > >>>> before. I forced it to reinstall from source--but that is probably going to
> >>>> > >>>> be different than the binary version.
> >>>> > >>>> I will send the build log for pixman over when it is finished,
> >>>> > >>>> but we will need the affected users to test out tonight's nightlies to make
> >>>> > >>>> sure they're still affected.
> >>>> > >>>> Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>> Yeah, not shipped with OS X.  It would be something that was
> >>>> > >>>> built.  Presuming that the new build configured exactly like the old build
> >>>> > >>>> it would be interesting to see.
> >>>> > >>>> Garth
> >>>> > >>>>> On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >>>>> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>> Interesting.  Is this something that comes with OS X?  If not, I
> >>>> > >>>>> installed it with brew.  I can uninstall it and reinstall it, and capture
> >>>> > >>>>> that log.
> >>>> > >>>>> Let me know.
> >>>> > >>>>> Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >>>>> On Feb 22, 2015 5:47 PM, "Garth Corral" <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>> More interesting would be the build log for pixman which,
> >>>> > >>>>> according to the attached log, is coming from /usr/local/lib.
> >>>> > >>>>> Garth
> >>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >>>>>> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>> The builds are being done on a Mac Mini.
> >>>> > >>>>>>     Model Name: Mac mini
> >>>> > >>>>>>     Model Identifier: Macmini6,1
> >>>> > >>>>>>     Processor Name: Intel Core i5
> >>>> > >>>>>>     Processor Speed: 2.5 GHz
> >>>> > >>>>>>     Number of Processors: 1
> >>>> > >>>>>>     Total Number of Cores: 2
> >>>> > >>>>>>     L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
> >>>> > >>>>>>     L3 Cache: 3 MB
> >>>> > >>>>>>     Memory: 16 GB
> >>>> > >>>>>> The official Mac name for it is "Mac Mini (late 2012)".
> >>>> > >>>>>> Attached is the full build log from Jenkins.  Note, I cleanly
> >>>> > >>>>>> rebuild *everything* every time, including wx and boost and everything, so
> >>>> > >>>>>> the log is quite long.
> >>>> > >>>>>> Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >>>>>> Cofounder and Engineer
> >>>> > >>>>>> W&L
> >>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Bernhard Stegmaier
> >>>> > >>>>>> <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>> Sounds reasonable… from a quick look into the source pixman
> >>>> > >>>>>> seems to check for MMX/SSE2/SSE3 and some non-x86 things during configure.
> >>>> > >>>>>> Maybe the same problem here:
> >>>> > >>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1424406
> >>>> > >>>>>> @Adam:
> >>>> > >>>>>> What is your build machine/cluster?
> >>>> > >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>> > >>>>>> Bernhard
> >>>> > >>>>>>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:12, Garth Corral <gcorral@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>> I can only speculate, but by the looks of that stack, I’m
> >>>> > >>>>>>> going to guess that somewhere in the pixman rendering code there is
> >>>> > >>>>>>> conditionally compiled instruction extensions, such as SSE*, that your cpu
> >>>> > >>>>>>> does not support.  The nightly builds probably compile this in based on some
> >>>> > >>>>>>> configuration test, and your builds do not.
> >>>> > >>>>>>> What is the cpu type and age of your system?
> >>>> > >>>>>>> Garth
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> OK, didn’t get that.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> From my side there is really not much more to help.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> The only thing that I could imagine is if Wayne could do a
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Debug-Build for you and then you could check if you still get that crash and
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> if there is some other information we could get from that.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> The bundle is self contained, so apart from the system
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> libraries (which should be the same on each 10.10.2) there is in theory
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> nothing on your machine that should break it.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> What machine is it?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Something special about it that could cause pixman to crash
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> on start?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Did you have any special pixman version/configuration with
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> your build?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Bernhard
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 22.02.2015, at 20:06, Johannes Maibaum
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Bernard,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I think. The version
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> information I provided with my last email was *not* from the nightlies. It
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> was from a working built on my machine, e.g. a build that does *not* crash.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> I thought to provide this information a starting point for
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> further analysis of the crash with the nightly which is of course built with
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Boost 1.54, and from r5441.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Johannes
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Am 22.02.2015 um 19:22 schrieb Bernhard Stegmaier
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> … I also was too fast with my response, adding list again…
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 22.02.2015, at 19:21, Bernhard Stegmaier
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Johannes,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> it is lib-pixmap what seems to be crashing, but that is
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> weird.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I found some similar reports of crashes with
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Mozilla/Firefox/etc., but none of them with a root-cause or more
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> information.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> However, something *is* wrong:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Boost version: 1.57.0
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Adam’s build doesn’t use 1.57, but 1.54 currently being
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> built with KiCad…
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> And also the build version is not what Adam built:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Version: (2015-02-06 BZR 5410)-product Release build
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So, whatever you are running, it doesn’t seem to be the
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> downloaded nightly?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Bernhard
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 22.02.2015, at 19:20, Johannes Maibaum
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bernhard,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the crash happens both when starting pcbnew standalone,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and when starting pcbnew or the footprint editor from the main Kicad app.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I don't have another Mac to cross check. On my 10.10.2
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> machine, it crashes every time.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I did however check my latest own build again, which has
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> no problems with either pcbnew or the footprint editor. It was built two
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago, from r5410, and with python scripting enabled. I don't know if
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> this does help you, but here is the version information string for this
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> working build:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Application: kicad
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Version: (2015-02-06 BZR 5410)-product Release build
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wxWidgets: Version 3.0.2 (debug,UTF-8,compiler with C++
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ABI 1002,GCC 4.2.1,STL containers,compatible with 2.8)
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Platform: Mac OS X (Darwin 14.1.0 x86_64), 64 bit, Little
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> endian, wxMac
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Boost version: 1.57.0
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  USE_WX_OVERLAY=ON
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>  KICAD_USE_WEBKIT=OFF
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Johannes
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 22.02.2015 um 18:12 schrieb Bernhard Stegmaier
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> does it crash only for standalone pcbnew, or also for
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that being launched via KiCad launcher, or both?
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I justed checked on both my 10.10.1 and 10.10.2 machines
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and don’t have any problems.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing I just noticed is that pcbnew can’t load
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a file via KiCad launcher if started from a path with a space in it (e.g.,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Volumes/My Disk/KiCad…) … but yours seems to be completely another story.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bernhard
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 14:05, Johannes Maibaum
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Adam,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> first, I'd like to thank you, Wayne and Layne, and of
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> course all the other OSX devs for finally bringing "official" OSX builds
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to the Kicad main page, great work! This is an amazing improvement for
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all OSX folks.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, testing the latest of the nightly builds, PCBNew
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the Footprint editor both crash on startup on my machine (crash log for
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PCBNew is attached). All other apps work fine.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before installing the nightly, I uninstalled my own
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> build of Kicad, and I am pretty sure to having wiped every Kicad file
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> relating to my build (including all the library folders). But perhaps I have
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> missed something.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can provide you with more information if you tell me
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what to do.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Johannes
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <PCBNew-crashlog-OSX-nightly-Feb-22.txt>
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 21.02.2015 um 18:29 schrieb Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find the latest OS X nightlies at
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/, and Nick linked it from
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's plenty of work still left to do for me on
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kicad, but I am excited to cross this one off the list.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be idling on the IRC channel more actively to
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help support users with this.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be announcing on the Kicad user list shortly.
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!  Even though this was a lot of work
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from us at Wayne and Layne, what we did was only a drop in the bucket
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compared to what has already been done by the dev team and the OS X devs!
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Wolf
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cofounder and Engineer
> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W&L
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