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Message #17416
Re: Wayne Stambaugh @ FOSDEM15 & everything lse...
> Something based in RST & compilation to HTML + a cute design would be awesome, because
> it would foster developer participation in the website maintenance.
I was thinking of volunteering to do something like this as I
primarily do web development outside my usual work of embedded
systems. I think it would be easy to make a very pretty "modern" kicad
home page for non developers. I would love to have kicad be more
inviting for non devs as the website write now is quite unwelcoming
for such users.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Miguel Ángel Ajo <majopela@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Friday, 20 de March de 2015 at 16:49, Javier Serrano wrote:
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> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> 2015-03-20 15:19 GMT+01:00 Mário Luzeiro <mrluzeiro@xxxxx>:
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> This type of support and community is what they expect when pay for a
> commercial product... if something is wrong.. they will ask the company for
> support..
> But, this is an issue in the opensource software feeling in general. But I
> believe some projects are making a good work in give people trust on this
> matters.
>
>
> I feel it quite the opposite. For a commercial product it is hard to
> get sane support, while open source projects are very easy.
>
>
> I see this as a two-dimensional issue. The opposite of free/open is
> proprietary. The opposite of commercial is non-commercial. There are
> four possible combinations. I think free/open and commercial is a
> winning combination. The software stays free-as-in-freedom, and
> free-as-in-free-beer for those who want it that way. If, in addition,
> we could find a way to reward those who make KiCad such a great tool,
> that can only be good. Look at successful free software projects. Most
> of them have a way to reward key contributors. Some people get paid
> full-time salaries to contribute to the Linux kernel, the Apache web
> server and many other projects. I hope KiCad gets there one day. Sorry
> for the digression, but I see this commercial-vs-open issue pop up
> often and I thought I'd give my view on it.
>
>
> I expect that to happen in the next years, to my eyes, KiCad to hardware
> is a bit what GCC was to software decades ago.
>
> Open Hardware is slowly becoming more relevant (open compute project, the
> CERN
> projects, etc…), and I expect that to grow, specially after all the latest
> KiCad contributions,
> from features, to building, to everything…
>
> Open and free is sustainable. Open always wins in the long term. We need to
> figure out
> how to fit open for hardware, HP recently jumped on the OCP project, they’re
> building servers
> and racks based on the OCP designs, It would be awesome if such designs
> started to happen
> with KiCad.
>
> About the confluence thing, It just works, and core project participants are
> software/hardware
> developers, nobody of us wish to spend his time in maintaining or developing
> a web, the problem
> with lots of common open source software/CMS for the web is maintainability,
> security, fixes.
>
> Something based in RST & compilation to HTML + a cute design would be
> awesome, because
> it would foster developer participation in the website maintenance.
>
> If someone is volunteering to do such thing, go ahead, prove it’s better
> than the current solution,
> I can provide a build server & hosting, repoint the DNSs, whatever is
> needed, but It’s not something
> I would do myself, as I prefer to invest my little little time in
> KiCad+python development, that it’s the
> important thing for us.
>
>
> Cheers!, and freedom ;)
>
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