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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 4/25/2015 12:26 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> There are certainly people who find a way to complain about everything.

Yep, they will even complain about free beer!  I mean that literally not
figuratively.

> :)  Thanks for the support.  There are also bound to be growing pains as
> we get into the new cadence of stable releases, and very probably times
> when our expectations and our users' expectations clash as they get used
> to the new cadence.

Better now than after the stable release.  I want to make sure we have
this all nailed down before the stable release.  During the next
development cycle, users should expect changes.  This is how development
works.  Thank you to everyone who contributes there time and talent to
make kicad the excellent tool that it is.

Wayne

> 
> Adam Wolf
> 
> Cofounder and Engineer
> 
> W&L
> 
> On Apr 25, 2015 10:30 AM, "Jean-Paul Louis" <louijp@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:louijp@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Adam,
> 
>     The criticism was not directed at you. It was more to support you,
>     and tell you not to worry about whiners.
>     The most vocal was french, (I know how they are since I was born and
>     raised there) so I would tell him that he gets what he paid for (a
>     GREAT product for free), so he should be happy and stop whining.
> 
> 
>     Jean-Paul
>     AC9GH
> 
> 
>     > On Apr 24, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Adam Wolf
>     <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Jean-Paul,
>     >
>     > I don't think anyone has complained on this list about the change
>     happening--neither I nor Garth have.  No one has proposed rolling it
>     back.
>     >
>     > The complaint isn't that diodes now fit a standard--that's better
>     than before!
>     >
>     > The issue is that there is now mismatch between live footprints
>     and user's installed schematic symbols, and there isn't a good way
>     to communicate this to our users.  How many users follow the user
>     mailing list?  Under 1%?  Under 0.1%?  While posting on the users
>     lists is necessary, it is not sufficient!
>     >
>     > There are relatively simple technical solutions to communicate
>     these changes to users, and for some reason (certainly not for my
>     blood pressure) I'm volunteering to spend even more time on this
>     project.
>     >
>     > Adam Wolf
>     > Cofounder and Engineer
>     > Wayne and Layne, LLC
>     >
>     > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:louijp@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     > Hi Adam,
>     >
>     > I do not see why the change in the library to make it compatible
>     with other CAD packages, and IPC standards is a bad thing.
>     > Since the beginning, I always used my own library for diodes
>     because they were broken in the KiCad library.
>     > At least now, I will be able to use the "standard” library.
>     >
>     > People who are complaining are just whiners. Everybody in the Pro
>     world use pin 1 as the cathode of a diode. Our libraries were
>     backward god knows why.
>     > We should thank the person who took the pain to fix it, instead of
>     whining.
>     >
>     > Just my $0.02,
>     > Jean-Paul
>     > AC9GH
>     >
>     > > On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Adam Wolf
>     <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     > >
>     > > Hi folks,
>     > >
>     > > Git has tags and branches and a bunch of features to stop issues
>     like this from happening.
>     > >
>     > > One easy way I think we can stop this from ever happening
>     again:  instead of always running off the newest commits to master,
>     the github plugin could use a tag or a commit, and then when folks
>     decide to update, we can parse and tell them what libraries changed
>     and how, through metadata and commit messages, and they can choose
>     when to update.
>     > >
>     > > This would stop changes in footprints from breaking users'
>     boards due to static library files.
>     > >
>     > > Thoughts?
>     > >
>     > > Adam Wolf
>     > > Cofounder and Engineer
>     > > Wayne and Layne, LLC
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