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[Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo.bernardo@xxxxxxxxx>]

mm ... bad (corrupted) IDs which show on Linux but not MSWin? Is there a
difference between debug and release build? Perhaps even a compiler or
platform dependent initialization (race condition)?

- Cirilo


On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Okay, I definitely have no clue what's going on. On my system, out of
> eleven items in the wxFlexGridSizer that holds the first set of options
> items, exactly one responds properly to its mnemonic:
> m_spinAutoSaveInterval. I cannot discern any way in which it is
> different from the rest. Another responds to the *wrong* mnemonic:
> m_spinBusWidth responds to the mnemonic for m_choiceUnits, two items
> above it. WTF! The other nine just barf out the weird message about
> wxPizza. All of the wxCheckBoxes in the bottom section work perfectly.
>
> Any wxwidgets wizards here? I'm at a complete loss.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 08:12:12PM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> > They seem to work ok on windows so it must be wxGTK that is the issue.
> >
> > On 8/5/2015 6:09 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> > > Actually it is not a problem with my patch. It may be a wx bug or a
> > > kicad bug - this needs further investigation. Maybe someone is
> listening
> > > who knows wx better?
> > >
> > > The mnemonics are broken even without my patch. Many items do not
> > > respond. After trying to get them working, I have a pile of these in my
> > > terminal:
> > >
> > > (eeschema:32117): Gtk-WARNING **: widget `wxPizza' isn't suitable for
> mnemonic activation
> > >
> > > What the everliving /hell/ is a wxPizza. I can find very little
> > > documentation on it, other than someone else also complaining that it
> is
> > > interfering with his events (with no follow-up).
> > >
> > > Anybody?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 06:02:02PM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> > >> I'll hold off committing this until I see your update.
> > >>
> > >> On 8/5/2015 5:41 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> > >>> Indeed, something strange is going on with the mnemonics. It's not
> > >>> responding to the correct ones in the correct places in this dialog.
> > >>> Don't commit this. I'll have a closer look tonight.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 05:39:34PM -0400, Jon Neal wrote:
> > >>>> I really like the wording changes in the dialogs. They are much more
> > >>>> consistent and understandable in my opinion. I am definitely +1 on
> this.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> However, I think this needs a bit more work as the mnemonics aren't
> working
> > >>>> on my system. (I have alerted Chris to this on IRC, just want to
> make sure
> > >>>> this doesn't get committed accidentally).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Other than the marked letters/mnemonics not working correctly
> everything
> > >>>> else seems to be correct.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jon Neal
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Chris Pavlina <
> pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Here's a patch to fix the option dialog mnemonics.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> - Fix conflicting mnemonics in eeschema options
> > >>>>> - Add mnemonics to pcbnew, modedit, libedit options
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> While I was doing it, I also cleaned up the padding/spacing in the
> > >>>>> dialogs (there were a few misaligned labels), and I removed an
> obsolete
> > >>>>> dialog DIALOG_LIBEDIT_DIMENSIONS (this appears to have been merged
> into
> > >>>>> DIALOG_LIBEDIT_OPTIONS a while ago and there is no remaining
> codepath
> > >>>>> that calls it).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 02:28:47PM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> > >>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:02 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The keyboard mnemonics (underlined letters) in the eeschema and
> libedit
> > >>>>>>> config boxes are a bit messy. There is at least one conflict
> (two items
> > >>>>>>> sharing L), and many items missing mnemonics.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I could easily patch this, but I'd rather discuss: perhaps they
> should
> > >>>>>>> be removed? It is not usual to have mnemonics in large,
> complicated
> > >>>>>>> dialogs like this - they're not particularly useful there, and
> they are
> > >>>>>>> error-prone as the current state demonstrates. People forget to
> add
> > >>>>>>> them, or miss conflicts. Mnemonics are much more useful in
> dialogs that
> > >>>>>>> are used frequently like text edit dialogs, where a user might
> want,
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>>> example, to jump quickly to the "text size" field. With so many
> > >>>>> options,
> > >>>>>>> nobody is going to remember the mnemonics anyway (note what
> "mnemonic"
> > >>>>>>> means: it's a memory aid!), and it doesn't save any time when
> one has
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>> squint at all the options to find the underlined letter.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Of course the possibility for inconsistency goes even farther: I
> > >>>>> haven't
> > >>>>>>> even checked the localizations to see how they behave.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Anybody else in favor of just removing them from these two
> dialogs? The
> > >>>>>>> pcbnew and modedit dialogs already do not use them, and most
> other GUI
> > >>>>>>> applications that I checked now also do not use them in their
> > >>>>>>> Preferences boxes.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> While your logic make sense, my preference is to keep the
> mnemonics, fix
> > >>>>>> any duplicates, and add the missing ones in any offending
> dialogs.  I
> > >>>>>> realize on some complex dialogs, it can be difficult to set unique
> > >>>>>> mnemonics but that's pretty rare.  There are still a lot of us old
> > >>>>>> timers around who prefer our keyboards over reaching for the mouse
> > >>>>>> whenever possible.  I know it's passe and quaint but I'm not
> ready to
> > >>>>>> give it up just yet :)
> > >>>>>>
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