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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

I tend to lean towards Chris' thinking on this as well.  The primary
problem I see with the ODB++ licensing is that at any time, Mentor can
take their ball and go home leaving us in a really awkward position.
I'm not saying it will happen but it has happened in the past so we
should proceed with caution.  This is why I like the idea of using a
Python script which can live outside of the project just in case.

On 9/12/2015 12:14 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> Yes, while I still strongly dislike the idea of a FOSS project
> encouraging that sort of licensing behavior, legally speaking that would
> work.
> 
> Personally I would rather Mentor get stuffed with that restriction, but
> your 5 cents are worth more than my two. :D
> 
> On Sep 12, 2015 12:11 PM, "Tomasz Wlostowski" <tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     On 12.09.2015 18:04, Chris Pavlina wrote:
>     > Not GPL-compatible because the restriction would apply to anyone
>     making
>     > a derivative of KiCad as well. The only way I can see to do this is a
>     > clean-room reverse engineering, which does not appear to be feasible.
> 
>     Use plugins. The ODB++/IPC-2581 ones could be kept outside mainline
>     Kicad if we would ensure they can be easily installed by a
>     non-programmer.
> 
>     - my 5 cents,
>     Tom
> 
> 
> 
>     >
>     > On Sep 10, 2015 12:48 PM, "Mark Roszko" <mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Nope, you don't have to advertise for Mentor Graphics
>     >
>     >     Here are the terms:
>     >
>     >     4. PROMOTION.
>     >
>     >     Participant agrees to promote the integration between the
>     ODB++ Format
>     >     and the Participant Products by: (i) joining the ODB++ Solutions
>     >     Alliance as a “solutions development partnering” member, via
>     the ODB++
>     >     Website, including providing a quote about Participant’s ODB++
>     Format
>     >     implementation for use in Mentor Graphics’ promotional
>     materials and
>     >     on the ODB++ Website; (ii) allowing Mentor Graphics to use
>     >     Participant’s logo in Mentor Graphics promotional materials
>     and on the
>     >     ODB++ Website; (iii) including a brief factual statement on
>     the ODB++
>     >     Format implementation in Participant’s promotional materials and a
>     >     link from Participant’s website to the ODB++ Website; (iv)
>     making a
>     >     visible acknowledgement in the Participant’s Products
>     (user-interface
>     >     and documentation) of the support received from Mentor
>     Graphics under
>     >     this Agreement for the implementation of the ODB++ Format; and (v)
>     >     agreeing to the publication by Mentor Graphics of the existence of
>     >     Participant’s membership in the ODB++ Solutions Alliance.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     I highly doubt Altium and Cadence (both large EDA developers)
>     would be
>     >     supporting ODB++ if they have to advertise their competitor.
>     Its just
>     >     really slapping the logo on the supported products page for
>     ODB++ and
>     >     some marketing FUD for ODB++ because they really want it to
>     take off
>     >     for some reason.
>     >     http://www.odb-sa.com/partners/
>     >
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