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Re: KiCad usability (was Re: cvpcb alternative)

 

Mailing list seems like a disaster place to sniff organization.

What about connecting and merging that information?

What about using a wiki?
On Sep 14, 2015 12:18 AM, "Nick Østergaard" <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Therea are no single study about that, IIRC, there have been two
> seperate people writing a long email each about it. Please serach the
> mailing list.
>
> 2015-09-14 0:06 GMT+02:00 timofonic timofonic <timofonic@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > I agree.
> >
> > KiCad would have lots of advantages by having a proper usability study.
> >
> > Are there some centralized documentation about that?
> >
> > What about contacting OpenUsability?
> >
> > Kind regards.
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2015 8:48 AM, "Mitch Davis" <mjd+launchpad.net@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yo.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Jacob Schmidt <tiger12506@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>> is remarkably unintuitive; making a footprint is EASY, saving it is
> >>>> HARD.
> >>>
> >>> Where is the unintuitive part? Select library, save footprint; end of
> >>> the story. Slightly more complex if you use the master board repository
> >>> approach (see manual for that).
> >>>
> >>>> The "Select" button sends us to the "Library Browser" when assigning a
> >>>> footprint to a schematic symbol, and that feels like I just travelled
> >>>> back to the dark ages.
> >>>
> >>> Can't really relate with that since 90% of the times I simply *type*
> the
> >>> footprint name, but maybe that's depend on how you have the library
> >>> organized. Agree that having to click thru for selecting a footprint is
> >>> not optimal but that's expected to be used for lesser modifications, as
> >>> I said before. *Could* get better, I agree on that. Would need
> >>> volontaries for that :P
> >>>
> >>
> >> A video response, as it were:
> >> https://youtu.be/h7DaMB7lPnA
> >
> >
> > I too struggle with this.  Every single time.  For every new project
> there's
> > five minutes of pointless trial and error while I work out how to create
> the
> > first footprint in the first project library, and hook it up to my board.
> >
> > We can learn a lot by watching how others use our software, and Jacob's
> > video is a great example.  I think our response shouldn't be "Jacob,
> you're
> > doing it wrong, you should be doing it this way", but "what leads people
> > like Jacob to think our software works this way, and how can we change
> it so
> > the guesses people make turn out to be the right ones"?
> >
> > Many years ago, Sun paid to have a useability study done on StarOffice
> (now
> > OpenOffice/LibreOffice)
> >
> >   http://www.openoffice.org/ux/reports/2001/berkeley/
> >
> > The lessons learned from watching, recording and analysing how regular
> users
> > use the software were fed back into StarOffice, and usability went up a
> > great deal as a result.
> >
> > There are even some folks who are very interested in usability of open
> > source:
> >
> >   http://openusability.org/
> >
> >> --because I'm frustrated, nothing more.
> >
> >
> > A basic rule of the service industry is that for every customer who
> > complains, there are 100 who had the same problem, but didn't speak up.
> We
> > need to look at how people new to KiCad use our software.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
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