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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'm OK with this.  I don't know if we even have any commercial boards on
our made with KiCad page.  I'm really not trying to stir up controversy
here.  I merely want to protect the best interests of the project.

Wayne

On 11/3/2015 9:36 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
> It might be easier to agree on a policy for projects where they provide
> KiCad design files, and figure out the policy for ones where they don't
> later.
> 
> Cut the problem in half, and tackle the easy one :)
> 
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> Wayne and Layne
> 
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     On 11/3/2015 5:09 AM, Javier Serrano wrote:
>     > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     >> I know it's noisy but I want developer input on this as well as website
>     >> developer input.  I think the developers have a right to know how their
>     >> work is being used and have a say in it.  The CERN folks may want some
>     >> say on this as well and I'm not sure they see the website mailing list
>     >> stuff.
>     >
>     > Hi, if I understand well the debate is not really about how we allow
>     > our work to be used, but rather about what to host or link to in the
>     > website and the conditions thereof. As to the former, by including a
>     > GPL2+ or GPL3+ header in our sources we agree that they be used in any
>     > way which complies with those licenses. As to the latter, I have no
>     > strong opinion on the subject, and will agree with whatever you guys
>     > decide. I do have a slight preference for not requiring funding in
>     > exchange of linking because that could open a can of worms. For
>     > instance, we could be faced with a situation where a project we don't
>     > want to advertise (for whatever reason) expects linking just because
>     > they funded KiCad development.
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     >
>     > Javier
>     >
> 
>     I'm not requiring funding.  I'm just throwing it out as an option for
>     commercial products to get on the "Made with KiCad" page without
>     mentioning KiCad on there website.  We need to have some show of good
>     faith that a board was actually designed with KiCad.  If the company
>     that produced that board with KiCad is not willing to at least state
>     publicly that they used KiCad (something like the "powered by Apache
>     logo") to design the board, we shouldn't be in the business of giving
>     them free advertising.  It also puts the burden of proof that they used
>     KiCad on them.  In other words, they are making the claim.  Not us.  I
>     can foresee a situation where someone claims that there board was design
>     with KiCad to get some open source/hardware good will when in fact they
>     didn't use KiCad.  This puts KiCad in a potentially embarrassing
>     situation that I would like to avoid.  There would be no expectation of
>     funding.  Only an expectation of good will.
> 
>     Cheers,
> 
>     Wayne
> 
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