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Re: Looking for complex board designs

 

The Paltatech boards were the closest ones to "commerical" but they
have had the linked added.
http://www.paltatech.com/eiti/
http://www.paltatech.com/electrosmart/

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm OK with this.  I don't know if we even have any commercial boards on
> our made with KiCad page.  I'm really not trying to stir up controversy
> here.  I merely want to protect the best interests of the project.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 11/3/2015 9:36 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>> It might be easier to agree on a policy for projects where they provide
>> KiCad design files, and figure out the policy for ones where they don't
>> later.
>>
>> Cut the problem in half, and tackle the easy one :)
>>
>> Adam Wolf
>> Cofounder and Engineer
>> Wayne and Layne
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 11/3/2015 5:09 AM, Javier Serrano wrote:
>>     > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>     >> I know it's noisy but I want developer input on this as well as website
>>     >> developer input.  I think the developers have a right to know how their
>>     >> work is being used and have a say in it.  The CERN folks may want some
>>     >> say on this as well and I'm not sure they see the website mailing list
>>     >> stuff.
>>     >
>>     > Hi, if I understand well the debate is not really about how we allow
>>     > our work to be used, but rather about what to host or link to in the
>>     > website and the conditions thereof. As to the former, by including a
>>     > GPL2+ or GPL3+ header in our sources we agree that they be used in any
>>     > way which complies with those licenses. As to the latter, I have no
>>     > strong opinion on the subject, and will agree with whatever you guys
>>     > decide. I do have a slight preference for not requiring funding in
>>     > exchange of linking because that could open a can of worms. For
>>     > instance, we could be faced with a situation where a project we don't
>>     > want to advertise (for whatever reason) expects linking just because
>>     > they funded KiCad development.
>>     >
>>     > Cheers,
>>     >
>>     > Javier
>>     >
>>
>>     I'm not requiring funding.  I'm just throwing it out as an option for
>>     commercial products to get on the "Made with KiCad" page without
>>     mentioning KiCad on there website.  We need to have some show of good
>>     faith that a board was actually designed with KiCad.  If the company
>>     that produced that board with KiCad is not willing to at least state
>>     publicly that they used KiCad (something like the "powered by Apache
>>     logo") to design the board, we shouldn't be in the business of giving
>>     them free advertising.  It also puts the burden of proof that they used
>>     KiCad on them.  In other words, they are making the claim.  Not us.  I
>>     can foresee a situation where someone claims that there board was design
>>     with KiCad to get some open source/hardware good will when in fact they
>>     didn't use KiCad.  This puts KiCad in a potentially embarrassing
>>     situation that I would like to avoid.  There would be no expectation of
>>     funding.  Only an expectation of good will.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Wayne
>>
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