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Hi Mario, 

thank you for your reply. The other people felt offended when I said "waist of
time". 
Actually I meant it in that way that if three people are making massive
changes in the same part of the code, it will be impossible to merge their
work together. And inevitably, many of the work will have to be thrown out.

Also, I'm glad to hear from a man who is working on the KiCad without an
interest in KiCad itself.

Anyway, I looked at your pictures - good work!

Thanks for speaking up,
          Martin.


----- Původní zpráva -----
Odesílatel: Mário Luzeiro <mrluzeiro@xxxxx>
Příjemce: "xarx@xxxxxx" <xarx@xxxxxx>, "kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 21:20:00 +0000
Předmět: RE: [Kicad-developers] About collaboration, simulation,
documentation, organisation, usability and documentation


> Hi Martin,
> 
> It is good to bring some discussion where to the mailing list. Some of this
> points discussed here (as Wayne pointed?) was already discussed before, we
may
> need some way of track / record of this discussions, it would help to add /
> improve the discussions.
> 
> 
> "On the other hand, it's funny that in the repository are 3 (!) actively
> developed refactorings of the 3D Viewer. I understant that 3D modelling is
> interesting and that you cannot prohibit to the developers to play with it,
> but this is waste of effort."
> 
> 
> I am one of the guys (actually 2 as already explained) that is wasting his
> time.
> Actually, it was one of my proposes, waste my time but keep my mind happy,
> fulfilled! 
> I am (was) a demoscener [1] so I was used to do things without any propose
or
> usefulness, just for fun to do it.
> (I am not being sarcastic!)
> 
> That work in my branch is still not part of Kicad (I wish it could be.. one
> day), it is just a personal development. Nobody asked me to do it, I didnt
> discuss it with (almost) nobody (sadly, I wish i could discuss more). So it
is a
> very selfish work (I would be very happy if somebody could join me, but
still
> didnt find anyone with the same interests).
> 
> At moment it is something for self entertainment, but I hope one day if I
work
> hard and negotiate with the "product owners" that is could become part of
Kicad
> and be something helpful for other people.
> 
> I am only doing that very specific because is the only interest I have, it
will
> be very difficult that I will work on something else on kicad that I have no
> personal interests. I will only do it if I need it or if that will make me
> happy.
> 
> I believe kicad is a very lucky successful project. This is an electronic
tool,
> people I know that work in (or are very good at) electronic design area hate
> software development! They are almost opposite areas of interest, so it
looks
> like a miracle that "so many" good software developers (that are also
probably
> electronic designers) are contributing to this for free and kicad survive
for so
> many years!
> 
> The fact that thing of "people do what they want and they like" help improve
> kicad in different areas that hopefully still going in the same path and
main
> kicad goals.
> 
> Before I join kicad, this was more or less how the 3d-viewer looks like:
> http://blog.nielshorn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/kicad-pic_3d.png
> with the work I did in the last years (with other contributions) 3d-viewer
now
> looks more like this:
> http://kicad-pcb.org/img/frontpage/kicad_3dviewer.png
> 
> I am not take credit to my self with this but what I mean with this example
is
> that 3d-viewer was not in priorities of kicad, so only people with personal
> interests will be able to improve this little parts. The other main
developers
> (eg CERN?) are working on planned and priority things (I hope!) 
> 
> And so on...
> 
> Cheers,
> Mario Luzeiro
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Kicad-developers
> [kicad-developers-bounces+mrluzeiro=ua.pt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of
> xarx@xxxxxx [xarx@xxxxxx]
> 
> On the other hand, it's funny that in the repository are 3 (!) actively
> developed refactorings of the 3D Viewer. I understant that 3D modelling is
> interesting and that you cannot prohibit to the developers to play with it,
> but this is waste of effort.
> 
>          Martin.


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