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[Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

Den 25/02/2016 14.46 skrev "jp charras" <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Le 25/02/2016 14:34, Simon Wells a écrit :
> > can we not just use the localized version of the language name?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:29 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> >> On 2/25/2016 1:47 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> >>> And BTW, we have all accepted that flags for languages are bad.
>
> Who is "all" ?
>
> I don't remember I said "flags for languages are bad"

I don't literally mean "all" developers here. It is meant as a
generalisation, here used as a way to express my opinion. If you look
around you, you will likely find a similar opinion if you ask anyone who
have actually spent two minutes of their life reflecting about this issue.

> >>
> >> What's the alternative, English text?  Is English text alone useful for
> >> users who don't know any English?  I guess it's not an issue when there
> >> are translations for the user's default language.  I realize the flags
> >> aren't ideal but is there a better solution?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 2016-02-25 7:44 GMT+01:00 Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>> I think it might be a good idea to make the menu only list the
> >>>> languages found. But I don't think the languages menu should be
> >>>> removed. I think it should either just show the "Default" entry, or
> >>>> say in the menu that now language files was found.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not really sure why it is considered testing, but I suspect that
> >>>> Jean-Pierre or somone else knows something more about that, but I
> >>>> could be wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>> If no one knows why this is considered testing, I would suggest that
> >>>> we don't do that, because it is really usefull, and a user using non
> >>>> english native language on his desktop expect that it should be
> >>>> possible to change it to english. This is also very useful for bug
> >>>> reporting. Maybe we should even note that in our little bug reporting
> >>>> guide.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nick
> >>>>
> >>>> 2016-02-25 5:24 GMT+01:00 Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>>> any comments on this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>> From: Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Language List
> >>>>> To: KiCad Developers <kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Currently the Language List throughout kicad advises it is used for
testing only
> >>>>>
> >>>>> common/pgm_base.cpp:72  *   The selection of languages is mainly for
> >>>>> maintainer's convenience
> >>>>> the tooltip for the languages option in preferences is also "only
used
> >>>>> for testing!"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If this is the case do we really need the flags, Apart from being
> >>>>> rather over the top for a testing feature flags while they can look
> >>>>> pretty (yet seem to be disabled on most platforms) aren't very
> >>>>> accurate as to the language, and should it be moved into #ifdef
DEBUG
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am currently making it so that it will only add the languages that
> >>>>> are found in the paths as being able to select a language that isn't
> >>>>> installed is not very useful. And the languages menu will not even
be
> >>>>> available if no i18n files are located
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If we decide to keep the flags would it not make more sense to move
> >>>>> these to the i18n repo so that adding a language would not require
> >>>>> effort from both programmers and translators, how my code will work
is
> >>>>> that it will automatically update the list with any languages that
are
> >>>>> detected
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Simon
>
>
> --
> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>
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