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[Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <majopela@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I understand the issue with dependencies.

I don’t have a windows but, has anybody tried easy_install ? 

https://pythonhosted.org/setuptools/easy_install.html <https://pythonhosted.org/setuptools/easy_install.html>

It’s supposed to be lighter than pip, I’m not sure if it comes with the base
python.

> On 24 Feb 2016, at 16:40, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On 2/24/2016 4:15 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote:
>> 
>> If it’s not hard to provide pip, IMHO one of the strengths of python is the
>> availability of lots libraries. I believe it’s ok to let the user know they will
>> need to reinstall their libraries after an update.
> 
> I'm OK with providing pip but all of the python dependencies will have
> to be added to the windows installer.  If someone wants to look at that,
> fine but I would rather we focus on KiCad rather than third Python support.
> 
> I'm OK with informing users about loosing their custom installed Python
> libraries when upgrading kicad but I can assure you there will be
> complaining.
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Feb 2016, at 01:28, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/23/2016 3:53 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>>> As far as I can se, we need python2w.exe, that should be easy to add.
>>>> But what I worry about is if we include pip, it might not work as
>>>> expeced for the user, beacause when he upgrades he might get into
>>>> trouble if he uninstalls kicad and then installs. The user will have
>>>> to reinstall the modules that he uses. An other thing is if kicad is
>>>> installed to %PROGRAMFILES%, then you will likely have trouble
>>>> modifying stuff there, because of the user access control. But I have
>>>> not tested this.
>>> 
>>> This was my concern.  Providing a full Python implementation is outside
>>> the scope of the project.  If someone needs this, they should install
>>> msys2 and either build kicad from source or create pacman packages.  If
>>> you don't mind, I would like to cherry pick your changes to PKGBUILD and
>>> push them to the msys2 kicad-git package repo.  I'll also create a kicad
>>> PKGBUID for the stable version of kicad using your PKGBUILD-STABLE so
>>> the msys2 project can provide both git mirror and stable version kicad
>>> packages.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2016-02-23 20:32 GMT+01:00 Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>> AFAIK kicad-winbuilder is no longer used or maintained.  KiCad is now
>>>>> built using msys2/mingw32 and msys2/mingw64 and the appropriate python
>>>>> run time requirements are installed in the same path as kicad.  Package
>>>>> devs correct me if I'm wrong but this is a partial install of the
>>>>> mingw32 or mingw64 python system containing only the run time
>>>>> requirements to use the python console and the Pcbnew Python modules and
>>>>> scripts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to maintain kicad-winbuilder, feel free to modify it any way
>>>>> you see fit but the windows installers will still continue to use msys2
>>>>> as the build environment.  We are using msys2/mingw32/64 because all of
>>>>> the dependency libraries required to build kicad are supplied by the
>>>>> msys2 project.  There is no need to build wxwidgets, boost, cairo, etc.
>>>>> from source to build kicad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/23/2016 1:51 PM, Константин Барановский wrote:
>>>>>> I'm confused. I'm not understand what is your point of view about
>>>>>> integration python to the installation of kicad on Windows. Will it
>>>>>> still done with kicad-winbuilder or you planning to separate python from
>>>>>> kicad installation and to use system-wide?
>>>>>> As I see (thank you xarx and Torsten Hüter), simplest way to include
>>>>>> full-featured python - it modify kicad-winbuilder. If you do not mind,
>>>>>> I'll try to do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards, Konstantin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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