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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

The short answer, lack of qualified and vetted manpower.  The real
answer is a bit more complicated than that.  There are not enough
developers that have been with the project long enough for me to have
full confidence in their software design capabilities that are willing
to work within the framework of the project.  This is a slow and arduous
task (somewhat like what it takes to become a Debian developer).
Developers either have to prove to me that they have the skill set and
the willingness to work with the KiCad dev team before I am willing to
give them that kind of responsibility.  This process takes time.  I will
not compromise the integrity of the project just to get changes
committed faster.  Early on in the project it was like the wild west
with devs committing anything they wanted and it was a disaster.  I'm
not willing to go through that again.

On 3/8/2016 11:28 AM, Jakub Kozdon wrote:
> Hi Maurice, Mário, Wayne,
> 
> I do not understand why there are not leaders for main KiCad source
> parts? Wayne, can you explain to me it? Because I think that there could
> be separate leaders for main KiCad parts and merging code from many
> developers can be done with their help and focus on their code part.
> 
> Jakub
> 
> Dne 7.3.2016 v 23:16 easyw napsal(a):
>> Hi Mario
>>> So my work is on same situation as yours... until one day it could be
>>> merged... one day...
>> I'm more optimistic then you ... I see your work in better position ;)
>>
>>> This is not just a case of 'insist', as I explained before, I dont
>>> have an "ideas to source code" converter!
>>> Then there are priorities and issues to be fixed first before
>>> implement new things..
>> I know I know ... I just said I 'pressed' you a bit :) ...
>>
>> Thank you again for your work! I think it will be very useful for
>> kicad users
>>
>> Maurice
>>
>>
>> On 07/03/2016 22.03, Mário Luzeiro wrote:
>>> Hi Maurice,
>>>
>>>> It took me three years to see my implementation of Virtual models to
>>>> enable/disable enclosure included in the (almost) main branch of
>>>> kicad...
>>>> and consider that I offered my code and the patch, but it is quite
>>>> difficult to have something changing in kicad...
>>>> Thanks a lot to Wayne and Mario to agree that was useful to all
>>>> users :)
>>>
>>> I am not so enthusiastic, as I consider we are still at the same
>>> point, since we still don't have this merged in main branch.
>>> So my work is on same situation as yours... until one day it could be
>>> merged... one day... :)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also I had to 'insist' (and I'm minimizing) a lot with Mario asking for
>>>> adding the feature to move the pivot from the center of the board...
>>>> thanks again a lot to Mario for implementing that! :)
>>>
>>> This is not just a case of 'insist', as I explained before, I dont
>>> have an "ideas to source code" converter!
>>> Then there are priorities and issues to be fixed first before
>>> implement new things..
>>> Also, as I hope that my work will be one day accepted for merge, I
>>> don't want to work on possible feature that will not be accepted in
>>> future and I wasted my time :/
>>> So I want to go "easy" with addition of new exotic (from the point of
>>> view of current kicad) functionalities.
>>>
>>> As a Portuguese saying: "Each thing in its time..." :P
>>>
>>> In the end, the good thing of this refactoring (and that was one of
>>> my main goals) is that it should be possible to implement new
>>> features easily on 3D-Viewer.. that it was not possible before...
>>>
>>> Mario
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: easyw [easyw@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: 07 March 2016 20:47
>>> To: Jakub Kozdon; Mário Luzeiro; Wayne Stambaugh
>>> Cc: kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Some new sweet features on the new
>>> 3D-Viewer
>>>
>>> Hi Jakub,
>>>> For the "pivot and rotation center" I think that it is an option for
>>>> future development. But why it can not be as mCAD ?
>>> I'm not saying it could not be an option in the future, I'm just
>>> realistic...
>>> It took me three years to see my implementation of Virtual models to
>>> enable/disable enclosure included in the (almost) main branch of
>>> kicad...
>>> https://kicad-info.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/0/0b70db5f2bd661b6417bd086cf45035a5fa263ff.gif
>>>
>>>
>>> and consider that I offered my code and the patch, but it is quite
>>> difficult to have something changing in kicad...
>>> Thanks a lot to Wayne and Mario to agree that was useful to all users :)
>>>
>>> Also I had to 'insist' (and I'm minimizing) a lot with Mario asking for
>>> adding the feature to move the pivot from the center of the board...
>>> thanks again a lot to Mario for implementing that! :)
>>>
>>>> Of course it not tend to be an mCAD but a 3D PCB editor. So there
>>>> can be
>>>> only a tools for PCB design not tools as in mCAD.
>>> I agree with you ... it would be nice, but there are so many things that
>>> the dev are following to improve kicad that I suspect those activities
>>> will have a very low priority
>>>
>>> If you are interested in MCAD integration for enclosure design, you may
>>> consider my kicad StepUp tools
>>> https://forum.kicad.info/t/kicad-stepup-new-exporter-for-3d-mcad-feedbacks-are-welcome/1048
>>>
>>> For example with my tools you can visually align your enclosure or 3D
>>> model to footprint an Altium style
>>> https://forum.kicad.info/t/how-to-interactive-align-3d-model-to-pcbnew-footprint-new-tool-for-kicad-in-altium-style/1711
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/O6vr8QFnYGw
>>> And in FreeCAD you can do also collision checks and real MCAD
>>> designing... so there is a very ECAD/MCAD collaboration available in
>>> kicad :)
>>> I moved all my code to FreeCAD APIs because of its power and maturity,
>>> and for the immediate usability, without any change to kicad code ...
>>>
>>> Cheers from a kicad enthusiastic user :)
>>> Maurice
>>>
>>
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