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[Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>]

It's gone :)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:25:48AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> Since we have enough alternative methods for rotating a block of
> footprints, I don't think removing this is going to be much of a burden
> on anyone.
> 
> On 4/13/2016 5:35 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> > Just rotate them first, then place. We don't need specific tools for
> > every conceivable permutation of movements. Unless even more people come
> > in saying they need this, or Wayne overrides me... I still don't think
> > this needs to stay.
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2016 02:16, "David Godfrey" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > 
> >     Hi Chris,
> > 
> >     A rotation of the selection is not the same as a rotation of the
> >     individual components.
> >     Consider you already have the components roughly in a grid, and you need
> >     to rotate them by 20 degrees.
> >     Rotating the selection means you have to do major repositioning of every
> >     component to get them back in the correct area.
> > 
> >     However rotating the components within the selection means they are
> >     still in about the right position, so only minor placement adjustments
> >     are required.
> >     These minor adjustments can likely be made using the align and
> >     distribute tools
> > 
> >     I Agree half-implemented features are bad, better to update them and
> >     properly implement.
> > 
> >     Regards
> >     David G
> > 
> >     On 13/04/16 08:53, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> >     > GAL already has this. Block or multi select, Ctrl-M for "move
> >     exactly" (or use
> >     > the context menu), and type an angle. Just rotates the whole
> >     selection, then
> >     > you can place your rotated resistors.
> >     >
> >     > Considering legacy is on its way out, I'd rather not keep crusty old
> >     > half-implemented legacy features around to require maintenance.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:50:38AM +0800, David Godfrey wrote:
> >     >> Hmm,
> >     >>
> >     >> I'v not used it on Kicad but the ability to change the
> >     orientation of an
> >     >> arbitrary selection of footprints is something I've used many
> >     times in
> >     >> Altium.
> >     >>
> >     >> Ideally you want to be able to set an absolute orientation, and
> >     also a
> >     >> relative (to current) angle adjustment.
> >     >>
> >     >> This is especially useful when designing boards like LED matrices and
> >     >> wanting to put all resisters on a specific angle (eg: 21.3deg).
> >     >> You can then do an array alignment with the same outer limit you used
> >     >> for your LED alignment.
> >     >> Then move the group of resistors into position relative to the LED's.
> >     >>
> >     >> Now running your tracks becomes trivial.
> >     >>
> >     >> Without the ability to auto adjust the orientation on a selection of
> >     >> parts the job becomes long and tedious.
> >     >> Some of the PCB's I've done this on have over 1000 LED's and
> >     resistors,
> >     >> and generally you need to orient both the resistors and the LED's
> >     >>
> >     >> So in summary, I'd like to keep the ability to do this, but on a
> >     >> selection instead of globally.
> >     >> And being able to alter it as an absolute angle, or as a relative to
> >     >> current (prefix the new angle with + or - to get relative movement)
> >     >> would be beneficial.
> >     >>
> >     >> Regards
> >     >> David G
> >     >>
> >     >> On 13/04/16 06:40, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> >     >>> I wonder how many of you are even aware of
> >     DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS. It's
> >     >>> hidden in the Secret Menu in pcbnew (the spread-and-place) one,
> >     menu item
> >     >>> Orient All Footprints. The code hasn't been touched since 2010
> >     except a few
> >     >>> cleanups, and it seems really simplistic and useless to me. I
> >     was going to
> >     >>> upgrade it to floating-point angle entry like everything else,
> >     but....
> >     >>>
> >     >>> Does _anybody_ even use this? It seems utterly useless. I have
> >     no idea when
> >     >>> you'd want to globally apply an orientation to footprints. Can I
> >     just tear it
> >     >>> out?  :P
> >     >>>
> >     >>
> >     >>
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