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[Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>]

The problem with "delete wire" is that "wire" is an internal
representation. The display gives no hints where a wire starts and ends;
collinear wires are possible and common. That makes "delete wire"
unpredictable. I would much rather replace it with a similar but simpler
(from the user's perspective) function.

pcbnew can delete a segment (which, due to its tendency to merge collinear
segments, typically refers to a visual segment), delete a section (between
the nearest two junction points), or delete an entire contiguous net. Maybe
eeschema could have the same or similar functions?
On May 20, 2016 3:00 AM, "Thor-Arne" <lp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On  windows the current behaivior is;
>    delete-key : delete whole wire
>    backspace-key : delete current segment
>
> If these are not working on all platforms, this needs to be fixed.
>
> And there should be a hotkey to completely delete a wire with all nodes,
> perhaps clrl-delete.
>
> There is no need to change the behavior of the delete-key since that
> functionality already is there on the backpace-key. Doing this is in my
> opinion a regression.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: José Ignacio
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:46 AM
> To: Simon Richter
> Cc: kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Schematic Cleanup: Split lines
> atjunctions
>
> The current behavior is fairly annoying, you can't really know
> beforehand how much the command is gonna delete, since collinear wires
> are not always merged (only when drawing more traces, not when
> dragging points), so sometimes it might delete just a single little
> chunk of the line, or the whole thing. I guess you could say it makes
> working with eeschema more exciting ;).
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Simon Richter <Simon.Richter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 20.05.2016 00:25, Thor-Arne wrote:
>>
>> Delete wire is on the delete button. and delete segment is on the
>>> backspace key.
>>>
>>
>> Ah, that makes (some) sense. To me, the behaviour of the delete key
>> looks fairly nonsensical, because it will stop at corners, but not at
>> junctions, while I'd expect "delete wire" to do the opposite.
>>
>> This leaves me with a difficult problem though -- I need net ties to
>> actually generate different nets on both sides, so I need different
>> wires that aren't combined in order to get different netlist items, but
>> this makes the delete key behave differently for net ties.
>>
>> Please do NOT change the behavior of the delete buton, it is used all
>>> the time.
>>>
>>
>> Hm, as said I don't find it that useful, because most of the time it
>> deletes a connection I still need, but leaves dangling segments. Would
>> it make sense to replace it with a "delete connection" functionality
>> that would never leave dangling ends?
>>
>> This still means I'm going to redo this patch stack -- the structural
>> changes in the cleanup function still make sense IMO, but the logic is
>> obviously wrong then.
>>
>>    Simon
>>
>>
>>
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