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[Maciej Sumiński <maciej.suminski@xxxxxxx>]

I am in favor of pencil removal too. What do you think about keeping the
page with a folded corner as the icon base, and depending on the editor:

- a part of schematic (like we have now)
- a single component
- a part of layout (like we have now)
- a single footprint

to show what is the editor target. Perhaps for a single
component/footprints there could be dimension lines (as usual in
blueprints) shown to stress the single instance.

Regards,
Orson

On 07/06/2016 12:21 PM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> I would strongly advise to get rid of the idea of having to put a pencil to
> teach people that the program that they are going to open is going to be an
> "editing" software and not a "viewing" software. In my opinion this
> differentiation is not necessary and quite old style. Just click on the
> Linux Menu button and have a look around.
> 
> Using the same reasoning, it might not be really necessary to teach people
> that the library icon is a symbol library icon and not some sort of
> library. You are right, we do have two kind of library editors (symbol and
> footprint) and that is a little problematic. Ideally we should have only
> one icon (one program) that allows to do both editing. But we dont.
> Naturally the look of these two icons might have to look similar. I find
> the footprint editor a bit of secondary editor since packages are less
> prone to change. I get your point anyway.
> 
> Human footprint is a little inappropriate. Maybe this example could be more
> likable.
> 
> 
> cheers
> Fabrizio
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/6/2016 3:20 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>> few years have passed since the last main Kicad icon restyling. In my
>>> opinion, the current icons are serving us quite well except for very few
>>> which could use a little face lift.
>>>
>>> The few icons that make me particularly itchy are the main Kicad icons
>>> for which this very imposing pencil does not play very well. I know that
>>> some of your really want a pencil to suggest that those tools are for
>>> editing. The truth is that now a days icons can be a little more subtle.
>>>
>>> I'd like to propose these new set of icons for the main KiCad toolbar.
>>> Please let me know what you think and please if there is anybody who
>>> wants to help out please, now is the moment.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Fabrizio
>>>
>>
>> Fabrizio,
>>
>> The symbol library editor bitmap is too generic.  We have two library
>> editors, a symbol library editor and a footprint library editor.  Your
>> proposed symbol library editor icon is ambiguous (it just an icon for a
>> library metaphor).  If it had a symbol such as and op-amp superimposed
>> over the top of the books, that may be more clear.  I may also need some
>> edit metaphor (such as the pencil in the current icon) as well because
>> it could be confused as library viewer rather than and editor.  Although
>> our current icon is also ambiguous.  It looks like you are going to open
>> a text editor.
>>
>> Your footprint library editor icon could be confusing as well.  Most PCB
>> layout users are familiar with the concept of component footprints.
>> It's what they do.  The human footprint may be more familiar to
>> non-technical users but I don't think that is relevant for KiCad users.
>> There is also no edit metaphor.  Perhaps you should use your symbol
>> library editor icon with a component footprint and some edit metaphor
>> (pencil?) superimposed over top of it for the footprint library editor
>> icon.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
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