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[Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx>]

Do we really need to emphasise its a library editor? Would it not just
be simpler to imply

Single Symbol -> This is used to edit symbols
Multiple connected Symbols-> This is used to put symbols together (aka
schematic editor(think of this as an assembly of symbols))
Single Footprint -> This is used to edit footprints
Multiple connected footprints -> This is used to put footprints together

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Fabrizio Tappero
<fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Orso,
> I like that. So lib icon will not have the page folded (like now) and just
> one single component in it and may be some parameters.
>
> Let me digest the idea.
>
> cheers
> Fabrizio
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Maciej Sumiński <maciej.suminski@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> I am in favor of pencil removal too. What do you think about keeping the
>> page with a folded corner as the icon base, and depending on the editor:
>>
>> - a part of schematic (like we have now)
>> - a single component
>> - a part of layout (like we have now)
>> - a single footprint
>>
>> to show what is the editor target. Perhaps for a single
>> component/footprints there could be dimension lines (as usual in
>> blueprints) shown to stress the single instance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Orson
>>
>> On 07/06/2016 12:21 PM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
>> > Hi Wayne,
>> > I would strongly advise to get rid of the idea of having to put a pencil
>> > to
>> > teach people that the program that they are going to open is going to be
>> > an
>> > "editing" software and not a "viewing" software. In my opinion this
>> > differentiation is not necessary and quite old style. Just click on the
>> > Linux Menu button and have a look around.
>> >
>> > Using the same reasoning, it might not be really necessary to teach
>> > people
>> > that the library icon is a symbol library icon and not some sort of
>> > library. You are right, we do have two kind of library editors (symbol
>> > and
>> > footprint) and that is a little problematic. Ideally we should have only
>> > one icon (one program) that allows to do both editing. But we dont.
>> > Naturally the look of these two icons might have to look similar. I find
>> > the footprint editor a bit of secondary editor since packages are less
>> > prone to change. I get your point anyway.
>> >
>> > Human footprint is a little inappropriate. Maybe this example could be
>> > more
>> > likable.
>> >
>> >
>> > cheers
>> > Fabrizio
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 7/6/2016 3:20 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
>> >>> Dear All,
>> >>> few years have passed since the last main Kicad icon restyling. In my
>> >>> opinion, the current icons are serving us quite well except for very
>> >>> few
>> >>> which could use a little face lift.
>> >>>
>> >>> The few icons that make me particularly itchy are the main Kicad icons
>> >>> for which this very imposing pencil does not play very well. I know
>> >>> that
>> >>> some of your really want a pencil to suggest that those tools are for
>> >>> editing. The truth is that now a days icons can be a little more
>> >>> subtle.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd like to propose these new set of icons for the main KiCad toolbar.
>> >>> Please let me know what you think and please if there is anybody who
>> >>> wants to help out please, now is the moment.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> Fabrizio
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Fabrizio,
>> >>
>> >> The symbol library editor bitmap is too generic.  We have two library
>> >> editors, a symbol library editor and a footprint library editor.  Your
>> >> proposed symbol library editor icon is ambiguous (it just an icon for a
>> >> library metaphor).  If it had a symbol such as and op-amp superimposed
>> >> over the top of the books, that may be more clear.  I may also need
>> >> some
>> >> edit metaphor (such as the pencil in the current icon) as well because
>> >> it could be confused as library viewer rather than and editor.
>> >> Although
>> >> our current icon is also ambiguous.  It looks like you are going to
>> >> open
>> >> a text editor.
>> >>
>> >> Your footprint library editor icon could be confusing as well.  Most
>> >> PCB
>> >> layout users are familiar with the concept of component footprints.
>> >> It's what they do.  The human footprint may be more familiar to
>> >> non-technical users but I don't think that is relevant for KiCad users.
>> >> There is also no edit metaphor.  Perhaps you should use your symbol
>> >> library editor icon with a component footprint and some edit metaphor
>> >> (pencil?) superimposed over top of it for the footprint library editor
>> >> icon.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Wayne
>> >>
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