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[Fabrizio Tappero <fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx>]

thanks Chris,
we will definetly take in consideration you inputs.

cheers
Fabrizio


On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 06:14:26AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> > That's a fair question that I'm not sure I can answer.  Can we
> > reasonably assume that the user expects the default action to be edit as
> > opposed to view or any other action?  I just don't know.  I do know that
> > icons should be reasonable (which is always subject to interpretation)
> > metaphors for the action they represent.  In this case the metaphors are
> > edit a symbol library and edit a footprint library.
>
> Disclaimer: I haven't looked through the icons yet. I'm at work doing a
> bit of
> https://xkcd.com/303/ .
>
> But... I'm strongly opposed to having a bunch of 'pencils' and stuff in the
> icons. KiCad has a *lot* of icons, and the priorities of the icon designer
> should be to make them 1) unique, and 2) quickly distinguishable from each
> other. The icon doesn't have to say *everything*, nobody is going to break
> out
> a magnifying lens to look at every little thing in the drawing and figure
> out
> what it does when it's a little picture displaying a centimeter across on
> their
> monitor. Icons are there for after you have a rough idea of what the tool
> does,
> to quickly find a target to click on. Adding features like pencils to icons
> increases the similarity of different ones, increasing the amount of time
> it
> takes a user to discern them. It's bad design.
>
> >
> > On 7/6/2016 6:10 AM, Simon Wells wrote:
> > > As the normal is edit is there really a need of a pencil icon as
> > > opposed to just having the magnifying glass on gerbview as its only a
> > > viewer?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >> On 7/6/2016 3:20 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
> > >>> Dear All,
> > >>> few years have passed since the last main Kicad icon restyling. In my
> > >>> opinion, the current icons are serving us quite well except for very
> few
> > >>> which could use a little face lift.
> > >>>
> > >>> The few icons that make me particularly itchy are the main Kicad
> icons
> > >>> for which this very imposing pencil does not play very well. I know
> that
> > >>> some of your really want a pencil to suggest that those tools are for
> > >>> editing. The truth is that now a days icons can be a little more
> subtle.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd like to propose these new set of icons for the main KiCad
> toolbar.
> > >>> Please let me know what you think and please if there is anybody who
> > >>> wants to help out please, now is the moment.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>> Fabrizio
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Fabrizio,
> > >>
> > >> The symbol library editor bitmap is too generic.  We have two library
> > >> editors, a symbol library editor and a footprint library editor.  Your
> > >> proposed symbol library editor icon is ambiguous (it just an icon for
> a
> > >> library metaphor).  If it had a symbol such as and op-amp superimposed
> > >> over the top of the books, that may be more clear.  I may also need
> some
> > >> edit metaphor (such as the pencil in the current icon) as well because
> > >> it could be confused as library viewer rather than and editor.
> Although
> > >> our current icon is also ambiguous.  It looks like you are going to
> open
> > >> a text editor.
> > >>
> > >> Your footprint library editor icon could be confusing as well.  Most
> PCB
> > >> layout users are familiar with the concept of component footprints.
> > >> It's what they do.  The human footprint may be more familiar to
> > >> non-technical users but I don't think that is relevant for KiCad
> users.
> > >> There is also no edit metaphor.  Perhaps you should use your symbol
> > >> library editor icon with a component footprint and some edit metaphor
> > >> (pencil?) superimposed over top of it for the footprint library
> editor icon.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Wayne
> > >>
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