kicad-developers team mailing list archive

[Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

2016-11-17 18:41 GMT+01:00 jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> Le 17/11/2016 à 17:25, Jacek Drewniak a écrit :
>> Thank You Tomasz for exlaination.
>>
>> I haven't known that there is a difference beetween view types other than in rendering.
>> I also have read on IRC channel that legacy mode will be banned and I shouldnt worry about this draw
>> mode. It is true? Should I also make change for drawing dimension in legacy mode?
>

See https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26772.html

> All new features should work on the new (opengl) mode.
> If this new feature can be added to the legacy mode at no cost (or only with a very low cost) you
> can add it to the legacy mode.
>
>
>>
>> To be honset I have plan to move dimension module to Altium-like.
>
> Do you mean allow different graphic styles?
>
>>
>> 2016-11-17 11:35 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Wlostowski <tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx
>> <mailto:tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx>>:
>>
>>     On 17.11.2016 09:51, Jacek Drewniak wrote:
>>     > Hello, jp charras,
>>     >
>>     > How text can be moved in original code when there is no edit-point
>>     > associated to text position and when change of dimension  (hight,
>>     > origin, end  or rotate) always moves text to middle of arrow.
>>
>>     Hi Jacek,
>>
>>     In the legacy canvas, pressing M while hovering the mouse over a
>>     dimension moves its text. I don't know if there's a way to move or
>>     resize the dimension. @JP, correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> @Tomasz, you are right.
> In legacy canvas, one can move and edit the text of the dimension, but not the dimension itself
>
> In my previous mail, I just said I do not see the interest of the lock/unlock option.
> The file format already stores the position of the text, and I do not see the interest to store in
> the file this option.
>
> This remark is mainly because generally speaking we must avoid incompatibility in Kicad files with
> older versions of Kicad when creating an incompatibility has only a small benefit (this is the case
> here).
>
> Having said that, I also should say the the way dimensions are coded in pcb files is stupid.
>
> Therefore using a new and better way makes sense, but a file format cannot be modified every week
> only for minor changes.
>
> So if (when...) different styles and option are supported, it make sense to modify this format, to
> support these major changes.
>

If we are to postprone would-be-nice-but-has-to-change-the-file-format
things, I think we should try to collect all the changes somewhere
public to track it. May I propose it could be a blueprint or bug on
launchpad. Otherwise I think we could risk forgetting the
improvements. Also, it might be easier to collect for a release note
next time. At least I have no overview of these kind of changes.

>>
>>     As for your patch, I like the idea of having the dimension text as a
>>     separate text object.
>>
>>     Tom
>>     >
>>     > Regards
>>     > Jacek
>>     >
>>     > 2016-11-16 20:51 GMT+01:00 jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>     > <mailto:jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>>>:
>>     >
>>     >     > В Понедельник, 14 ноя. 2016 в 6:53 , Jacek Drewniak <yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx>>> написал:
>>     >     >> pcbnew - Dimension module has new features:
>>     >     >>     - dimension arrow can now be set to 'outside'
>>     >     >>     - dimension text can be unlocked and moved freely now
>>     >
>>     >     what is the meaning of:
>>     >     "dimension text can be *unlocked* and moved freely now"
>>     >     The dimension text was never locked and can be moved freely on the
>>     >     legacy canvas.
>>     >     Just the opengl canvas was missing the dimension text move command,
>>     >     but the text is not locked (and
>>     >     therefore lock/unlock option is useless).
>>     >
>>     >     --
>>     >     Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>
> Regards,
> --
> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers
> Post to     : kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp