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[Jacek Drewniak <yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx>]

I agree that maybe the dimension module should be upgraded in one update
patch:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kicad/+spec/dimension-module-upgrade

2016-11-18 8:49 GMT+01:00 Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>:

> 2016-11-17 18:41 GMT+01:00 jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Le 17/11/2016 à 17:25, Jacek Drewniak a écrit :
> >> Thank You Tomasz for exlaination.
> >>
> >> I haven't known that there is a difference beetween view types other
> than in rendering.
> >> I also have read on IRC channel that legacy mode will be banned and I
> shouldnt worry about this draw
> >> mode. It is true? Should I also make change for drawing dimension in
> legacy mode?
> >
>
> See https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26772.html
>
> > All new features should work on the new (opengl) mode.
> > If this new feature can be added to the legacy mode at no cost (or only
> with a very low cost) you
> > can add it to the legacy mode.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> To be honset I have plan to move dimension module to Altium-like.
> >
> > Do you mean allow different graphic styles?
> >
> >>
> >> 2016-11-17 11:35 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Wlostowski <tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx>>:
> >>
> >>     On 17.11.2016 09:51, Jacek Drewniak wrote:
> >>     > Hello, jp charras,
> >>     >
> >>     > How text can be moved in original code when there is no edit-point
> >>     > associated to text position and when change of dimension  (hight,
> >>     > origin, end  or rotate) always moves text to middle of arrow.
> >>
> >>     Hi Jacek,
> >>
> >>     In the legacy canvas, pressing M while hovering the mouse over a
> >>     dimension moves its text. I don't know if there's a way to move or
> >>     resize the dimension. @JP, correct me if I'm wrong.
> >
> > @Tomasz, you are right.
> > In legacy canvas, one can move and edit the text of the dimension, but
> not the dimension itself
> >
> > In my previous mail, I just said I do not see the interest of the
> lock/unlock option.
> > The file format already stores the position of the text, and I do not
> see the interest to store in
> > the file this option.
> >
> > This remark is mainly because generally speaking we must avoid
> incompatibility in Kicad files with
> > older versions of Kicad when creating an incompatibility has only a
> small benefit (this is the case
> > here).
> >
> > Having said that, I also should say the the way dimensions are coded in
> pcb files is stupid.
> >
> > Therefore using a new and better way makes sense, but a file format
> cannot be modified every week
> > only for minor changes.
> >
> > So if (when...) different styles and option are supported, it make sense
> to modify this format, to
> > support these major changes.
> >
>
> If we are to postprone would-be-nice-but-has-to-change-the-file-format
> things, I think we should try to collect all the changes somewhere
> public to track it. May I propose it could be a blueprint or bug on
> launchpad. Otherwise I think we could risk forgetting the
> improvements. Also, it might be easier to collect for a release note
> next time. At least I have no overview of these kind of changes.
>
> >>
> >>     As for your patch, I like the idea of having the dimension text as a
> >>     separate text object.
> >>
> >>     Tom
> >>     >
> >>     > Regards
> >>     > Jacek
> >>     >
> >>     > 2016-11-16 20:51 GMT+01:00 jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>     > <mailto:jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>>>:
> >>     >
> >>     >     > В Понедельник, 14 ноя. 2016 в 6:53 , Jacek Drewniak <
> yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx
> >>     <mailto:yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
> yahuza.pl@xxxxxxxxx>>> написал:
> >>     >     >> pcbnew - Dimension module has new features:
> >>     >     >>     - dimension arrow can now be set to 'outside'
> >>     >     >>     - dimension text can be unlocked and moved freely now
> >>     >
> >>     >     what is the meaning of:
> >>     >     "dimension text can be *unlocked* and moved freely now"
> >>     >     The dimension text was never locked and can be moved freely
> on the
> >>     >     legacy canvas.
> >>     >     Just the opengl canvas was missing the dimension text move
> command,
> >>     >     but the text is not locked (and
> >>     >     therefore lock/unlock option is useless).
> >>     >
> >>     >     --
> >>     >     Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
> >
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